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RE: [RC] Feed in South Africa- and now barefoot - Budler,Cindy - AfroxHi Maryanne/All Our beet pulp now is imported from UK I think- the Dodsen and Horrell kwik-beet. A bit expensive- but might get cheaper with more use - horse people are notoriously slow to try new feed- especially expensive feed- and with the rand/pound exchange rate we can get VERY expensive!! But you are right in that the 24/7 is probably the key here- interesting to see that mine- being rather cold here right now(down to -1 degrees C at night) graze at night and then sleep most of the day sprawled out in the sun (15 degrees)-I think that really makes them alot more sane! I am NOT doing the barefoot thing permanently - altho we now allow barefoot competing in SA - if one belongs to the Barefoot Club. I DO NOT want to start the barefoot debate again- but a few people have asked... I honestly cannot "afford" barefoot here in SA- Afford as in I battle to support my horses and my reason for owning them is to do endurance riding - not winning as at this age all I want to do is a nice 16km/h 80km or 14km/h 120 km ride at least once a month- . I cannot afford the "so-called" barefoot trimmers, or the imported variety of boots - whether they be easyboots or turfkings or whatever.. and my horses feet do NOT last with all the mileage required to compete well at that level on the ground where I train. I also cannot afford to go buy some gigantic piece of ground somewhere in the sticks so my horses can walk 20km a day over varied terrain to compete barefoot safely and fairly to the horse. To be honest if I had to do that I would have to give up horses completely cos I couldn't work to afford them!! But occassionally- especailly when doing limited mileage due to not being able to compete, I like to let the horses manage barefoot as long as possible to give me a good look at how they move and wear their feet- and be able to shoe accordingly. Needless to say I believe 90% of horses here in SA should and definately could go barefoot cos of the limited amount of work they do. Regards, Cindy Budler IP Marketing Germiston 011 876 1179 0824641809 -----Original Message----- From: Maryanne Gabbani [mailto:msgabbani@xxxxxxx] Sent: 04 July 2006 13:27 PM To: Budler,Cindy - Afrox Cc: 'Ridecamp' Subject: Re: [RC] Feed in Soth Africa Importance: High I've been checking out beet pulp here in Egypt but so far not impressed with things like cleanliness of plant and so on. We worry about fermentation if it hasn't been dried properly. Who knows? Maybe someday. I've found that the change from even being in a box for the night to being out 24/7 can do wonders for horses' mentality. i have 12 horses on about an acre and a half. No grazing, just sand, because I had to choose between healthy feet and a bit of green for them. When I had them on grass at the old place, we had to water so much to keep the grass growing that we were having hoof issues. Now on the sand, they have lots of rice hay to munch on and the hoofs are much, much better. I recently started using hay cubes that are locally produced from a local clover...they say it's alfalfa but Egyptians are amazingly cavalier with the names of plants and animals....that a friend had been using for some time now. Lesley runs a boarding/ lesson barn down the road and I figured that I'd let her be the guinea pig since a lot of our parameters for our horses are the same....mostly neither of us can afford to have horses that are so hot that they are a hazard to riders. She found that the hay cubes worked for some of her horses, not for all. Some of them got rather screwy on them, so when I started my gang on them, we did so with caution. However, we haven't found any of them getting silly or hot. Perhaps it's because it really is so bloody hot these days that it's an effort to breathe most of the day, or maybe it's because they are outside and can move around as they like. We'll see how it goes. Maryanne Giza On Jul 4, 2006, at 8:52 AM, Budler,Cindy - Afrox wrote: My mare's behaviour has changed radically - I am not sure if it is the food or a combination of feed and living conditions. She was stabled from 3pm to 7am everyday at livery- with a very large mountain for turnout the other hours. Also on a "cool" feed but with some molasses and about 3 kg/ day.She was an extremely hot spooky horse - a nightmare to ride ! Now she is out 24 hours a day- not in a large place but big enough to graze and move around quite a bit. I also have pulled her shoes and she is a bit ouchy right now- so although we are training lightly because of the feet she is still getting in an average of 30km a week. She has not spooked once in the the last two rides!!!! Also no pulling like a train- we can ride on the buckle.It is a pleasure to ride her right now!!She is really well rounded - not fat but in good condition and besides now looking more like a "plaasponie"(farm pony in Afrikaans) and not a show arab anymore she is a much more relaxed and happy horse all round.If I find , as we up the miles in preparation of starting the new season in January- that she runs out of gas I will increase the oats and commercial feed to up the energy portion of the food but right now we seem okay.. Regards, Cindy Budler IP Marketing Germiston 011 876 1179 0824641809 This e-mail message and all attachments contain the CONFIDENTIAL AND PROPRIETARY information of The Afrox Group and may contain LEGALLY PRIVILEGED information. 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