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Technically you are correct, Pauline, that there is a difference between 
a "half arab" and an "arab cross."  The Arabian registry has a registry 
for "half arabs," which must have one one pureblood parent.  I've kind 
of assumed that the AERC "arab cross" category is intended for non 
registered part arabs whose owners want to emphasize their "arabness" 
rather than whatever else they are.  I think it would be useful, for 
good record keeping, if both sides of the "half" and "cross" had to be 
listed.
There are registries with offices for most breeds in the US and yes, 
some allow dual registration.  Some registries are based on color so 
horses registered with some, but not all, of those can also be 
registered in a breed registry.  The Mountain Horse registries (KY 
Mountain Horse, Mountain Pleasure Horse, Rocky Mountain Horse, etc.) all 
have very small differences between them and horses are frequently cross 
registered.  On the other end of the spectrum are the 12 or so 
registries for varieties of Spanish Mustangs/Spanish Colonial Horses. 
These horses are all genetically closely related but differ in color or 
place of origin.  All in all, its about as easy to understand as the 
Warmblood registries!
Years ago, comparatively few horses in the US were registered.  That has 
changed but there are still many who aren't.  The ancestry and 
bloodlines of many of those are known but, for various reasons, they are 
unregistrable.
As for age, I wouldn't doubt that a few underage horses slip through 
because some registries use Jan. lst as all horses' birthdays but others 
use the real birth date.
Laney

Pvan19@xxxxxxx wrote:
> For me there is a def difference between a  half arab ( one registered 
> arab parent) and an arab cross which could have a little as 10% arab blood?
>  
> In France they've recently openend a new stud book called 'half arab' 
> where horse with at least 50% arab blood can be registered - great 
> initiative as these horses used to be registered under something 
> equivalent to your 'grade ' horses from what I understand
>  
> all ride stats here can be picked off the internet and gives origines as 
> well as stub book info - so some here have a great time working out % 
> arabs/non arabs etc.  started, finished etc.. quite interesting! 
> Especially when you compare speed or pulsing down times by breed and/or 
> sex and/or age
>  
> Is there a central registry office for each breed in the US? I get the 
> impression you can register your horse with different organisations? 
> Like in the question of age which came up a while back - in France the 
> date of birth is on the horse's papers from the stud book ( and that 
> includes a 'non determined breed' equivalent stud book) , not so in the US?
>  
> Pauline
>  
> Laney Humphrey wrote:
>  > > Maybe the time has come to really encourage people to update their
>  > > horses' information. I wish that the "arab cross" and "half arab"
>  > > groups could be combined because they are the same thing. However, it
>  > > would be very nice to know what the other "half" or "cross" is too. If
>  > > folks are interested in whether a horse is gaited or not, there should
>  > > be a way to indicate that for breeds where it wouldn't be normal. That
>  > > would include even "arab cross" and "half arab." There are also gaited
>  > > appaloosas, morgans and quite a few others, including "arab" and
>  > > certainly "grade."
>  > > laney
>  > >


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