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RE: [RC] Marlene - pedigree - heidiI always get a chuckle out of the notion that nationality
designations of bloodlines are "pure" anything. Cyprin is a case
in point. He would certainly be described as a Polish stallion,
since he came from there, but as for "pure"
Polish, let's take a closer look at his actual pedigree.
First, his sire *Cypr was indeed imported from Poland. His
sire, Pietuszok, was bred in Russia and imprted to Poland (and then
later to the United States and later yet to Canada). Let's take a
look at his sire Priboj, who was bred in Russia. Priboj's sire,
Piolun, is by the stallion Koheilan I, imported
to Russia from Hungary. Priboj's dam, Rissalma, was a
straight Blunt mare bred by Crabbet Stud and likewise was exported to
Russia from England without ever going to Poland. So Priboj, from
Russia, is a quarter Hungarian and half Crabbet, with his other quarter
indeed being Polish (Piolun's dam was exported from Poland to
Russia). Then let's take a look at Pietuszok's dam,
Taktika. Her sire, Taki Pan, was bred in Russia, the offspring of
two horses exported from Poland to Russia. But his sire, Kaszmir,
is out of a mare named Hebda from Austria. Taki Pan's dam, Krona,
is by a stallion named Kann, who was imported to Russia from
France. Krona's dam, Star of the Hills, was a Crabbet mare
imported to Russia the same year as Rissalma. All in all, *Cypr's
sire Pietuszok is half Polish at most.
*Cypr's dam Cissa and Cyprin's dam *Moczarka are of much higher
percentages of traditional Polish breeding, but do both have lines
to Kaszmir, and hence to his Austrian dam Hebda.
I'm no expert on Polish pedigrees, but all of this information is
readily accessable on AHA's DataSource, where one can actually trace
the horses back to their countries of origin and check out the
import/export records. I always get a bit leery when people start
talking about "pure" this or that, as unless one is talking about
specific desert sources, most "nationality" programs got horses from
other sources and are not "pure' to their adopted country at all.
And Cyprin is certainly a case in point. The history is
fascinating--one might as well get it accurate. And in this case,
the Russians would have to get a fair amount of credit for what is
behind *Cypr, given that they imported horses from several sources
other than Poland in generating the breeding program that produced
him. Too often people seem to think that Russian and Polish
programs are interchangeable--they aren't.
Heidi
Ha ha "sire line mostly polish", I think not. He is totally pure polish! IOW your new mare is half pure polish maybe more depending on the dam lines of her dam.
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