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RE: [RC] Shagya ride - been outed ! - heidiPlease Reply to: Dennis Farnham dfarnham09.aol.com or ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ========================================== Hello Heidi, You sly dog...you tracked me down! I am an associate member of ASAV because I do not own a Shagya bred horse. My wife owns a long yearling, Anglo-Shagya gelding. Concerning my endurance experience, I am an endurance groom (hostage - chains of love) for my wife. I trained my wife's anglo-arab mare, Gallant Rose...three, fifty mile wins in a row last season. I am also a licensed, TB racing trainer...been inactive for a while but was a winning trainer. Hope to have two back in the game by fall. And I am a thirty plus year, serious student of dressage. There's more, but let's not bore everyone. I have no axe to grind concerning the Shagya...I'm not trying to sell anything to anyone. The long yearling colt in our barn is there because I think he is a terrific young horse...smart, strong, precocious, handy and very fast...and I do know fast from not fast...not because he is an Anglo-Shagya. I haven't tried to force my training opinions on anyone...or even held myself out as having anything to offer concerning training distance racehor ses. I do like to know who I'm talking to, Dennis. And I can certainly respect your capabilities. The only thing I have commented on is unsolicited rudeness. And here's where we part company. What rudeness? Below is Angie's first post concerning the ASAV ride in conjunction with Top of the ROCK. Angie said: "Good grief. I thought the Shagya folks have talked all big about breeding great endurance horses. If their "Eastern side of the Mississippi River Championship" is 25 miles, how are we supposed to get the impression that the people running their show have a clue what endurance is?" Yep, that's the same post I read. Now please someone tell me what I'm misinterpreting. I simply read that as being rude, snotty and condescending. If I am wrong in my interpretation, I certainly apologize. Yes, Dennis, you were wrong. :-) But that's ok--apologies go a long way. :-) Angie was simply asking how a 25-mile ride can be seriously billed as a championship, when 1) it is not endurance at all, and when 2) you are riding a breed that is historically well known for endurance and you want the result to showcase the breed. Let me take another run at a comparison for you. I'm not all that smart about the dressage world, so let's say we hear all about these terrific dressage horses, and then the folks say, "Oh, yeah, he won the training level championship." Should we really take that as a compliment to a horse that has Grand Prix capabilities? Angie is trying to help you keep from making the same mistake. And she did it because she cares about horses. Take it for what it's worth--don't read more into it than what is there. Sometimes it is really nice to have folks around who are blunt and frank enough to tell you that your fly is open--instead of letting you parade down the street that way. If they didn't care, they'd keep their mouths shut and snicker. By the way, I post as a ridecamp guest because I haven't figured out how to get a post how work any other way. This time I really won't be bothering everyone with my comments on this subject, and once again, ASAV, best of luck on a successful, enjoyable and educational ride at Top of the Rock. I won't claim expertise about e-matters--I've heard that there's a way you can get to post directly if you go to the endurance.net site, and I apparently managed to figure it out once upon a time because I'm here, but I don't claim to be a champion... If you get my drift... And had "successful, enjoyable, and educational" been the goals listed for the ASAV 25-miler instead of "championship" you would have gotten a standing ovation from all of us. Heidi =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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