[RC] Shoot the Clones - k s swigartRosalie said: We don't have to depend on cloning to mess up the equine gene pool, look at the AQHA horse Impressive and HYPP. There are other examples too. and Ed said: There is good evidence that the TB may have such a small gene pool that meaningful increases in the genetic part of performance are extremely unlikely. The logical response would be to open the registry, and racing, to new genetic material. These two statements are both good examples of why registries should be leery of registering clones. He HYPP/Impressive problem exists in the Quarter Horse registry because of overuse of a popular breeeding stallion whose genetic flaw was not discovered until there there were 55,000 horses with him in their pedigree. Because of this the AQHA has been battling for over a decade on how to remove this ONE gene (that can easily be tested for) from their gene pool. Not because the science of removing the gene doesn't exist, but because the number of horses that would have to be removed in order to remove this one gene is staggering. Cloning, by its very definition is "overuse of breeding individual." The Thoroughbred, and the limited size of its gene pool is a result of centuries of "overuse" of breeding individuals. And yes, lack of genetic diversity DOES (scientific fact) lead the lack of opportunity for genetic improvement. As Ed states, what the Thoroughbred registry needs to to to improve the breed is to OPEN the registry. Registering clones of horses in their already limited gene pool would not accomplish this, it would limit the gene pool further. It is interesting to me to note that in the early post stated that it was the AQHA and the Jockey Club who have said that they will not register clones. Hopefully because they understand (from past experience) just how devastating overuse of breeding individuals and limiting your gene pool can be. While it has been true that man has been cloning organisms for millenia (not just since the 60s as Truman mentioned) by grafting assorted fruits for example. Pretty much the motivation for doing this comes under the heading of "food production." It would make perfect sense to be cloning horses if the intent were to eat them. Otherwise, the narrowing of the gene pool combined with the overproduction of possibly genetically flawed individuals is probably too great a risk to take. The handful of situations where cloning could lead to genetic improvement are greatly overshadowed by the number of situations where it could lead to genetic degradation or stagnation. The AQHA can't get rid of HYPP because doing so would require culling a staggering number of horses....and this is just from ONE stallion. Imagine how much worse it would be if somebody had cloned Impressive and used the clones for breeding as well. kat Orange County, Calif. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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