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Re: [RC] Needle gauge - Lysane Cree

Would that be sub-cutaneous, rather than IM? or is the needle still going in the muscle?
 
I had to do that with injections for my dog that were to be given sub-cutaneous...lift a piece of skin and inject
 
Lysane

Barbara McCrary <bigcreekranch@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
My vet taught me to pinch a piece of neck tissue between thumb and fingers, then inject into that little "hill" of flesh.
 
Barbara
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Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 12:53 PM
Subject: Re: [RC] Needle gauge

remember you are balancing the length of time to get the solution in vs actual pain from the needle.  The most pain is from the initial injection and then when the med goes in.  I prefer fast!!!  Also, thump the area several times before actually putting in the needle.  Let the horse settle down a bit before injection the solution.  Sometimes doing this during graining time is helpful as the horse is distracted.
 
My first horse got strangles the week after I bought her.  Doing those shots for 10 days was not easy.  She was barely halter broke.........................................
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Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 11:10 AM
Subject: Re: [RC] Needle gauge

I want to be able to use the finest needle I can since my horse hates needles so much. I don't have something to give right now, but was cleaning out my stuff and have 20g needles. I was wondering if there were even smaller ones available. Guess it depends on the liquid too - but penicillin seems to be o.k. in a 20g or smaller...
 
The vet showed me that too - putting just needle in first before attaching the syringe - a little tricky though when the horse is all over the place. She did show improvement last time though, so maybe with time she will get used to it.
 
Lysane 


Mary Ann Spencer <maryann.spencer@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
generally needle gauges range from 16 to 30, can get most thru vet supply and at most feed stores. I have given penicillin in smaller than 18.  The horse version is not as thick as the human version.  You can get by with the 20. I use 21s for people instead of the 18.  I just have to push harder to get it in fast.  With the new disposable needles, pain from the needle going in is not much of a factor unless you resterilzed and reuse the needle.
 
Don't forget to aspirate. I have had more blood returns from injecting horses than any human and I do 100s of humans.  A vet showed me to put the needle in first and then attach the syringe.  That way you know if it is in a blood vessel and can move to another injection site. 
 
If the horse moves and you are holding onto the syringe, you will definitely be hurting the horse and he will move even more.  Good luck.
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Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 8:50 AM
Subject: Re: [RC] Needle gauge

Hi.
 
An 18 is much larger than a 20, but necessary for some things such as Penicillin.  That being said, if you are giving PNC, take it out of the refrigerator, draw it up in the syringe, and warm it in your hands for a few minutes.  It will hurt the horse less and be easier to inject.  (I assume your are giving a med to a horse?)
 
If you have a choice of giving the med with a 20 or 18, definitely go with the 20.  Trust me on this one.
 
Sylvia
 
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