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RE: [RC] Old Age & Healthy - Bob Morris

Lif:

You wrote <<<I want to feed my horses the highest nutrition
foods I 
can find for them, keep them stressed as little as possible
through 
allowing them to live as naturally as possible and through
how I 
manage and interact with them,>>

Don't you find a bit of a conundrum in that statement?

First you want to feed "the highest nutrition foods" but
then you are "allowing them to live as naturally as
possible"

The two are not mutual. In the natural state the horse does
not get the highest nutritional foods. They just are not
available. The highest nutrition foods have been made that
way through human intervention. 

Then "how I manage and interact with them' is counter to
"live as naturally as possible". Once the human interacts to
control the horse, it is no longer even close to living
naturally. 

Human intervention has increased the life of the horse and
the human. Is this good? It depends on your mental attitude!
Increased human longevity leads to additional stress. Stress
increases opportunities for disease to inhabit the body.
Disease encourages the use of drugs to elongate life
expectancy  and the circle starts to close. 

You also state <<<Just doing a cursory search on longevity
reveals a common thread 
among modern people who, as a group, used to enjoy vital,
active 
lives even into their hundreds, who are, again as a group,
dying 
younger and having more health problems (notably Sardenia
and Okinawa 
where people routinely live into their 100s and are healthy
and 
active).>>>

Ever consider the fact of why we see these people living to
older ages?  Consider that these are the ones that lived,
all the rest did not reach old age so they are not heard
from. For every 100 year old, how many did not reach that
age?

Bob



Bob Morris
Morris Endurance Enterprises
Boise, ID 

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Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 10:36 AM
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Subject: RE: [RC] Old Age & Healthy


At 08:06 AM 3/21/2006, heidi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
Dr. Nik hit the nail on the head--a portion of being able
to stay off 
of meds into old age is genetic, and a portion is exercise.
Certainly 
our modern typical American fast-food and junk-food diet is
a 
contributor---but one can "eat healthy" without going to
extremes, and 
if one is blessed with decent genes and can combine
reasonable eating 
habits with exercise, there is a good chance that one can
live quite 
long before needing pharmacological help.

You are right - there are many factors to being healthy in
old(er) 
age.  From what I read, genetics counts for about 30% of
your overall 
health - a big chunk but not enough to keep you healthy.
Genetics, 
exercise, stresses, food, water & air quality - ALL of it 
counts.  You can't just dismiss one of the factors as not
very 
important (not saying you are doing that, it was the generic
"you"), 
and since we don't know enough about our individual genetic 
expressions of  health, it seems pretty smart to keep the
other 2/3 
of the factors as high quality in our lives, and that of our
horses, 
as possible.

It is a real reach to suggest that older folks are on meds
because
they ate ground grains instead of whole grains, which is
how your 
original post came across.

Actually, my original post was that oats are less nutritious
when 
rolled or crimped.  And my comment about older folks on meds
was 
a  response to your comment  in a later email saying "yet we
tend to 
live to healthy ripe old ages" - my response was that I
didn't agree, 
I think we humans these days are negating any tendency to
live to 
*healthy* ripe old ages, and used the great number of people
on 
prescription meds as evidence of why I believe that.

Just doing a cursory search on longevity reveals a common
thread 
among modern people who, as a group, used to enjoy vital,
active 
lives even into their hundreds, who are, again as a group,
dying 
younger and having more health problems (notably Sardenia
and Okinawa 
where people routinely live into their 100s and are healthy
and 
active).  The common thread:  a loss of family cohesiveness
(stress), 
a change from active to sedentary lifestyle (exercise), and
a change 
away from consumption of natural food (nutrition).
Interestingly 
enough, Seventh Day Adventists, who also as a group tend
toward 
longevity are not losing that tendency.  But  they remain 
vegetarians, they don't smoke, they are physically active
and have 
strong family and community ties.

Personally, I want to feed my horses the highest nutrition
foods I 
can find for them, keep them stressed as little as possible
through 
allowing them to live as naturally as possible and through
how I 
manage and interact with them, and if I were still breeding,
I'd 
breed for healthy constitutions as well as for great
conformation and 
personality.



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Lif Strand, Research Associate
Southwest Center for Resource Analysis
Western New Mexico University
(505) 773-4897
(505) 212-0108 FAX 


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