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RE: [RC] Strange gelding or cryptorchid?? - Libby & Quentin Llop DVM

Of the 160+ horses we have had over the years, we have had two or three geldings that would breed mares. None were cryptorchid (or fertile). I don't know about the ones we bought, but the homebred was not gelded late. They are mostly a management problem and can spread infections and STDs.  Also the kids were really embarrassed when one gelding bred his sister tied to the trailer at the county fair.     Libby
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Subject: [RC] Strange gelding or cryptorchid??

Very curious about this, as I didn't think this was possible. Apparently my sister's 12 year old stock type palomino gelding mounted and penetrated a mare he was pastured with...several times, as reported by the barn owner, who is also the owner of the mare. I didn't think geldings could....get excited, let alone...get erect. Is this possible??? Or.... could this horse be a cryptorchid? We've noticed "studdy" behavior in him before when we introduced our friend's horse to ours, all geldings. Toulouse would drive the new horse away, put his body between the two, bite, kick, run the new horse around the pasture. He befriended my gelding without batting an eye, but would not tolerate a newcomer. He likewise gave my horse this similar treatment when I returned him to their "herd" of three when I moved back from Lafayette. In both circumstances, we smoothed things over by rotating the animals back and forth in a temporary paddock, but Toulouse (the "gelding" in question) was always the alpha horse. We really thought he'd been perhaps gelded later then usual, which might explain his tendency for aggressive and dominant behavior. Any thoughts on this? We are most surprised! The mare's owner has been trying to breed her, so he's unconcerned with this, even in the face of having a grade baby. We're actually more bent out of shape about the fact that a gelding is sowing his wild oats! Anyone ever seen this before??
 
Liz Dorner
Ct. Region

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