[RC] Saddle horse - k s swigartDiana Anderson said: I missed Hiedi's post so I don't know what led to Kat's slam of the thoroughbred horse. I can only say that she must have missed MY post too, since it included the statement that I am of the opinion that the Thoroughbred is "The most athletic horse of the face of the planet." It is unclear to me where she could ever have gotten the idea that this was a "slam" :). _I_ have a barn full of Thoroughbreds. However, one of the reasons I have a barn full of thoroughbreds is that I a one of the few trainers in this area who will work with the horses, and when people come to me with the "problem" thoroughbreds, they end up giving them to me....because they come to the unfortunate conclusion that it is too much horse for them. I USED to try to convince people not to do this (since I consider them to be the most athletic horses on the face of the planet and will make the best horse you could ever own :)); however, "problem" thoroughbreds are really easy to create with mis-handling, and very hard to "fix" after they have been created. "Problem" Arabians are also pretty easy to create with mis-handling, but aren't quite so hard to fix after. "Problem" Quarter Horses are much harder to create in the first place, and can be either really easy or virtually impossible to fix (depending on how/why the problems were created). As a trainer of "problem" horses, I know whereof I speak; although, of course, I am speaking in generalities, not about individuals. However, if breeds of horses did not have traits that were common to the breed, then they wouldn't be breeds. And while I LOVE Thoroughbreds, and I hate to admit it, because I wish everybody could love them the way that I do; I have to admit, that as a general rule, they aren't for everybody....and, I contend, one of the reasons for this is attributable to the fact that there is nothing in their selection criteria (which is centuries old and pretty single-minded and ruthless) which makes them suitable as pleasure mounts. In fact, the heavy selection for determination (and it is determination, as much if not more than speed, that wins medium distance races) and an eagerness to engage in a contest in which they will die before they will give in has virtually removed "pleasure mount" from their genetic makeup :). Thoroughbreds are very trainable, just so long as you don't try to dominate them. If you pick a fight with a Thoroughbred, it will be only too pleased to engage in the fight. And since it is bigger, stronger and faster than you are....it's gonna win (and even if it doesn't it's gonna die trying :)). If, however, you are able to teach the horse to use all that power and determination to do what YOU ask, such a horse will be willing to die trying FOR you (instead of against you). In other countries (notably, most of the British Commonwealth countries) where the Thoroughbred is used for much more than just racing, and even the race horses are not trained is such a "hot house" environment, the Thoroughbred is not quite as single-minded as the American Thoroughbred. However, some of the most noted Thoroughbred sires of all time (and not just American ones) have the reputation of being down right unmanageable sons of bitches, and some of the greatest racehorses of all time are reputed to be right on the edge of being described in this way...that is, in fact, probably part of what makes them great racehorses. :) Legend has it that the most prominent sire in the TB gene pool, the Godolphin Arabian (or Barb, or whatever breed you want to ascribe to him) had such a reputation; so, while reports of his origin are varied, reports of his disposition are not. So, Thoroughbreds do not have the corner on the "difficult dispostion" market, but they do have a pretty substantial stake :). And the fact remains, that there is not now, nor has there ever been any selection criteria in the Thoroughbred which comes even close to resembling "suitable mount for the amateur/pleasure rider" or "good family horse." Of the millions of Thoroughbreds that have been bred, for centuries, there is but a handful that were not bred specifically with the intent to race the horse (although I have one, we bred her to be a jumper), even those that are used for other disciplines were originally bred for the racetrack (I have one of those too :)). kat Orange County, Calif. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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