[RC] Wow...what a great perspective - Ridecamp GuestPlease Reply to: kim kimfue@xxxxxxx or ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ========================================== Your post make complete and perfect sense and explains weak performances on the International level. It also explains why so many AERC riders feel the FEI is not compatible within AERC anymore. This explains some of the frustration with dual sanctioned rides here also. There is a dicotomy when you choose your international riders from a pool of AERC riders and AERC events. AERC places importance on the completion therefore to finish is to win. As you mention, International competition focuses on the win or the single performance. Overall lifetime mileage doesn't matter. It seems we are trying to blend to very different sports and philosophies and then can't understand why there are fewer successes and dissention in the ranks. I looked up Debbi's record and it is quite impressive....I am even familar with one of her horses as it is originally from CA and I know the breeding and knew the horse before it was sold. Her record is impressive a "race horse" rider, trainer, and competitor if you consider endurance long distance "racing". Kudos to that but her record on that front. In terms of an endurance rider it is not what most would consider impressive or respectable but would border on taking chances and being abusive. As we heard from Debi, she feels 12 hour endurance rides are abusive. No one is wrong if we are talking about two different sports. The problem is is that those that want to "race" and compete internationally want to use the AERC venue as their platform and that is what seems not to be working well anymore. Kim n regards to the comment by Debi Foti and the reply from Perry. You're right Perry you don't see Debi's name in the standings because she concentrates on riding international. When you ride international you do not put thousands of miles on your horse then ask him to crank out international level speeds. Keep international seperate from AERC these are 2 different kinds of endurance sports, that are trained for completely differently. She bought a horse I bred and raised and trained him to a level that allowed him to be bought and exported. She has been a flat track trainer for years and has more horse experience than most realize. Had she kept him she would have easily kicked butt at the worlds, her mistake was selling him but that was her choice. He needed to represent UAS not Dubai. International riders realize that they cannot have high mileage horses and still compete on the international level. Your international level horses stay international level and you need your aerc horse for the other rides/races. Rio and other horses of the past were not taken to this fast level of racing. Criteria was different, racing courses were different. Horses are not the machines that most people think they are.. They can not do high mileage like most AERC members want then, step up to international level intensity and speed. We are talking 2 different kinds of competitions. International competition needs to stay seperate from AERC. Views and attitudes are just too different and strategy and training are just to different. But we need better minds on the riders and veternarians, and better training techniques. There needs to be better horse selection procedures also. If most selected horses end up lame or the training camp intensity lames them up, then people need to be willing to go back to the list and start again, but there was no time left. Horses going to Dubai need to be heat horses, most not all, mix-breeds cannot handle the heat as well as most pure arabians. That is not saying, do not use mix breeds, just pick the heat tolerant horses and ride them like that at the ride do not expect to race w/the big boys that live there on those particular horses, finish don't expect to race. The USA needs to definetly change seletion procedures for International races. The comment that MOUNTAIN horses have never seen sand is ridiculous. Try MT. Carmel if you want sand or Color Country or Oreana (set up for FEI training) or come out and ride in Moab. I'll give you sand. Most AERC members have quit wanting to step up to the international level, because of not only the speed but the ridiculous politics that occur during the selection process. There are a few of the selectors that tried their best to select the best possible individuals out of the pool that was present. But once that occured and it got down to the last group that's when things fell apart. Horse and riders teams need to be selected for their horsemanship skills and care of the horse, but also for team support. Dictatorship was used in Flordia, changes were made and forced upon riders with the ultimatim of not being on the team. Ridecamp member and readers, please start understanding the difference and don't use AERC motto to finish is to win w/International level. International level is race to the finish line. If you don't like their motto, then don't compete to international level, let them make their mistakes just like a lot of AERC members do. Thanks =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
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