Re: [RC] beet pulp warning - Diane TrefethenHi Carolyn, I assume the question you're asking is do I think your post was FBT and if so, why? The first phrase of your post was, "If soaked beet pulp is such a problem". Here you are setting up a straw man (a logical tool which is not part of the original question but which can be easily disproved). The objective is to discredit the straw man and when you have done so successfully, then by implication you have discredited the original argument. Next you proceeded to shoot down the straw man by stating that no one else on Ridecamp has encountered this problem, including THE Susan Garlinghouse. This being true, you have now successfully defeated the straw man. However, Patty didn't say that feeding BP was a big problem or a common problem. She said that HER horse had suffered from eating it. So while you demonstrated that feeding BP is not "such a big problem", you have said nothing that shows that Patty's horse DIDN'T get sick from it. Thus if Patty's horse's guttural pouches were full of BP (I assume with four flushings, a licensed veterinarian can tell the difference between packed grain, packed hay and packed BP), you have also failed to prove that BP is never harmful. Next you made reference to Patty's vet's cryptic "seen the wrecks". Without further elaboration by the vet, this statement brings nothing to the issue at hand and once again, you inject a correct statement that the vet's negative take on BP "appears to be one persons opinion". You then state, "I, PERSONALLY, will continue to feed this WONDER FOOD" <<emphasis mine>>. The implication here is that only a fool wouldn't use this wonderful food. So, because 1) BP-packed guttural pouches is not a big problem, 2) Patty's vet doesn't like the stuff, 3) Patty might be unreliable because she overreacted by stopping all feeding of BP, and 4) you PERSONALLY think BP is great, you totally dismissed Patty's warning. The reason this is FBT is that your dismissing the possibility that feeding BP might be harmful is not based having proved that BP didn't harm Patty's horse but rather on the above four reasons, none of which go to the heart of the question. As an aside, we were coming into winter and my two horses were not carrying the weight they needed. So in late August I started feeding BP, along with corn oil, oats and corn. I was making a nice mash but now because of Patty's post, I will revise my formulation to include enough water to make a gruel instead. BTW, I had an old brood mare (27). This was before beet pulp was in common usage. Like you, I had a devil of a time getting her to eat so I finally threw in the towel and just fed her straight alfalfa which she LOVED. Despite its hazards, the alfalfa kept the old lady happy and in good weight for her remaining years. I suspect that you too will feed your hard keepers what they will EAT and be happy that they look and feel good. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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