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[RC] changing rules - Sky RanchI love the improvisation of cutting out the pads! At a current ride, at the check-in the vet would see the pads, though. As far as I know, pads are ok -- correct me if I'm wrong, fellow ctr riders. I do know that boots are perfectly legal as long as they do not cover the coronary band (coronet). From what I understand, early NATRC rules (again, I don't know when this changed) did not allow watering horses during the rides. Now, it's encouraged, and ride managers go to great trouble to haul water on rides that don't have natural water sources. So, there has been a lot of evolving ... one thing I know that both NATRC and AERC encourage is the health and safety of the horse, which I think we all appreciate. Carla Richardson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara McCrary" <bigcreekranch@xxxxxxxxxx> To: "Sky Ranch" <skyranch@xxxxxxxx>; "Ridecamp Guest" <guest-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 4:58 PM Subject: Re: [RC] "sound"? endurance horses I'm glad to hear that boots are now allowed. When we first tried a NATRC ride in 1975, my husband was riding a horse we had just bought and the horse had just finished Tevis (16th) wearing leather pads. Lud didn't bother to remove the pads, as we knew nothing of NATRC rules. Our sister-in-law was just putting on the first of her many years of NATRC rides, so we thought we would try it out. All went well for awhile until a disgruntled rider noticed Lud's horse was wearing pads and the rider tattled to the judges and vets. Lud was called on the carpet for this infraction, so he said how about removing the pads, and he was told that was OK. So he whipped out his trusty pocket knife and cut out the pads, then continued on his way. I guess it's only recently that the policy of no extra hoof protection has been revised. Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sky Ranch" <skyranch@xxxxxxxx> To: "Barbara McCrary" <bigcreekranch@xxxxxxxxxx>; "Ridecamp Guest" <guest-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 3:22 PM Subject: Re: [RC] "sound"? endurance horsesWell, I have to offer a 'slight' correction, Barbara -- The old NATRC rules did prohibit using boots, but now you can use boots -- there was a rule change, I don't know when because I'm too new. At any rate, NATRC allows boots, as long as they don't cover the coronet. And most riders in NATRC use shoes, which I guess you could also call hoof protection. Carla Richardson Colorado ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara McCrary" <bigcreekranch@xxxxxxxxxx> To: "Ridecamp Guest" <guest-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 4:17 PM Subject: Re: [RC] "sound"? endurance horsesI don't agree with your assessment of the horse's soundness. Some horses are more rock sensitive than others and I don't see any problem with protecting their feet with boots if they are the sensitive type. It would be interesting to see what percentage of horses have such tough feet that they can ride 50-100 miles through rocks and not be sore. Perhaps if one trains in rocks all the time the horse may become accustomed to them, but not all of us have such training grounds. As for Bute, how many riderscando 500-100 miles and not be sore enough afterwards to want some aspirin or Advil? Are you by any chance a NATRC rider? I know their rules prohibit foot protection, but look at the distinct difference in pacing. Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ridecamp Guest" <guest-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 1:54 PM Subject: [RC] "sound"? endurance horsesPlease Reply to: Concerned about horses lookout@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx or ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ========================================== having been involved in and managing endurance rides (not riding) for the last 10 yrs, i still cannot understand how a horse that has to bepadded or wear easy boots can be considered a "sound" horse. if thehorsecannot be ridden in a standard horseshoe or bare foot then he is not sound enough for an endurance horse and should be retired to the trail. Using pads, equitotics, plastic shoes, etc and then having to Bute the horse later is closer to abuse than good horsemanship. I expect this little note to stir things up a bit. HA-HA Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. 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