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Re: [RC] selling horses - Bette LamoreAs someone very wise once told me : "A horse is worth what a buyer is willing to pay for it and the seller is willing to take to part with it." Sometimes a seller has to go through a lot of buyers and vice versa before they have a "meeting of the minds". I disagree that breeding programs mean very little. As many on this email list will tell you, there are breeders here whose get have done well in endurance and racing and athletic endeavors. There is a factor of genetics which predispose a horse to be able to move well and have good conformation-- it is a matter of statistics. Since none of us have crystal balls to see what a horse is capable of (unless one buys an already proven endurance horse and even then, the endurance racing itself may lead to future problems, depending on the care of the rider), it would increase the odds of getting a good prospect if you know the SIBLINGS have done well and particularly if the dam and sire have good conformation, athletic ability and hopefully a record of athletic achievement in whatever athletic endeavor (and I am not talking about Western Pleasure or Halter ;-) ) Some of us breeders have not frequented the Show Ring very much (although my family did in the beginning when we were st ill naive and thought the best horse won-- not determined by who was on the end of the lead line or reins) so a show record is not always possible and drives up the price just to break even. When we spent the big bucks and got the "in" trainers, we won. When we learned of their abuses towards our horses and got others more skilled and kind, but not "politically correct", we had a different outcome. For example, our horse who has just been awarded Reserve Champion in Region I was shown by an unknown dressage trainer a month later and didn't even place on the judge's card at Region II-- the very political Santa Barbara--- just a hint who the judge was--- he was slapped on the hands for neck lipo and hiney implants a few years later. I know most of you here are familiar with that which I speak, this is addressed to all the "newbies" who can hopefully profit from our mistakes :-) JMHO Bette Bette Lamore Whispering Oaks Arabians Home of Bunny and 16.2h TLA Halynov who lives on through his legacy Hal's Riverdance! http://www.arabiansporthorse.com "Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming --WOW-- what a ride !! " Juli Jakub wrote: I have a question for breeders and sellers out there. What do good endurance horses go for? Proven ones and not so proven ones. The prices look low and I was wondering. My Prelim eventer sold for $12,000 to a good home...she was an investment of $500 out of a race barn pasture, green and I did all the training. She was campaigned and proven when I sold her but I was really picky and trying to sell fast ( like within a period of two months I was moving and couldn't take her!). I had an offer of $25,000 for her a year earlier, but I did not like the people nor at that time was I willing to sell her. I have a student who just bought a green Morgan eventer (against my recomendation)...5 year old...potential, but no jump training yet and only basic walk, trot, canter both directions some leg yielding ect....cute mover and good solid basics...for $12,000! I was boggled that they were selling her for that much and that my student would pay that for a green horse! But it seems like there is more money in training eventers and jumpers than training and selling an endurance horse...why is this? Just more money in those disciplines? I am asking because I eventually ( not this year certainly) want to have a backyard training/breeding program. Just a few horses that I train or re train and sell or re sell. It seems like even though I want to try endurance it might be better for selling purposes to train eventers still. I can do what I want with my personal horses, but it is looking like for sale purposes it is better to stay connected to the eventing world. True? It seems like in the endurance world prices are really low for a good horse be it campaigned or potential... =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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