That second loop on the 30 is the Duncan
Hollow/Chrisman Hollow loop, my back yard, that has not been used by the OD for
a while, it is deceiving in that it is an 8 mile climb to the highest point of
the OD Trail, even higher than Shermans i've been told. Its rocky and has
plenty of water and grass and is a good training ground for teaching a horse to
traverse rock.