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Re: [RC] another lost shoe-- - Jody Rogers-Buttram

Sorry Ed, gonna have to correct some of this  :)
 
Ok, been a farrier for more than 18 years, did my own endurance shoeing all that time.  The reason I went to farrier school in the first place was because of just this problem.  If the horse is stepping off the front shoes, here is a for sure should work solution.  I have read some of the responses and the ones I saw did not all say quite the same as I am saying.  I got this info years ago from a track vet/farrier.
 
Yes, shorten the toe some on the front feet and for sure raise that angle on the front.  You don't need to tighten in the heels  on the front feet.  This can cause its own problems, such as contracted heels.  Those front shoes can stay on with some shoe sticking out on the fronts. In fact they should have room for heel expansion.
On the back, raise the heel angle there as well.  Some others had said lower the heel angle.  Yes, this is what is taught in the books to do to correct this problem.  The idea here is to slow down the breakover on the back feet in order to give the front feet more time to get out of the way.  But it doesn't always work !!!!  So, raise that back heel angle.  That will cause a faster breakover, shortening the stride of the back feet.  Therefore, placing them not as far up under the horse to be grabbing those front feet.  And by all means, square the toes on the back.  Put a rolled toe on the front if you want to.
I have some of the worst horses in the world to reach and grab off shoes.  I use and have used this method for years.  I have seen nothing bad come out it, all my horses have very healthy feet.  I have had horses that went for literally thousand of career miles while being shod this way.  I believe in it.  So, good luck and hope your shoes stay on.  I know that there is nothing  worse than having to worry about shoes be "stepped" off.
 
Jody

Ed Kilpatrick <whytrotfarms@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
i need a little more info on this one mary.   is it the same shoe coming off each time?  front only?   is he simply overstepping and pulling the front shoe off with the hind foot?   if so, just have your farrier turn the heels of the front shoes in just a bit so there is nothing sticking out for that rear foot to hit.     you could try ground control shoes also.  cowboy ed


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[RC] another lost shoe--, Ed Kilpatrick