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God knows I am too easy on my kid. The only way they 
> will learn> to be self motivated is to wait until they really want it
for 
> themselves. If> your daughter won¹t do what she can, leave her at home.
If she wants 
> to> come, she has to do for herself.
Well, if I've EVER seen a kid who was motivated to do a ride it's Joni.
Remember, this is the kid who literally did a 100 miler the day after
being up the entire night with a stomach virus. The kid was death eating
soda crackers at the FIRST check, but never quit, or asked to quit. She
was given the option of quitting and refused.  Didn't show the best
*judgement* but definately motivated. :-) 

Jody, I'll bet your problem is like mine. I have MY way of doing things.
We *say* we want somebody else to help and the second they do we take it
from them and say, "no, do it like this...". I thought Josie was a
slacker at times, till she finally got this horse  that's ALL hers, start
to finish. I've had no hand in his training. When I used to say, "No like
this" she walked off and let me do it myself. Now when I say it she says,
"No *I* do it like THIS", and *I* walk off. >g<

Angie 

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