RE: [RC] Val Nicoson's deworming question. ALSO, general info ondeworming. - sharon1359I just did a ton of research on current deworming information, so that I could get my new rotation in order. My information is from product labels and veterinary websites. But, if there are any vets or other folks out there who have come up with different info, please feel free to let me know (sources for your info would also help, so I can figure out where I went wrong). ***VAL: Yes, you'll still need to do the 5-day double-dose purge for Encysted Strongyles with either Panacur or SafeGuard.*** But you may want to think about rotating your Ivermectin/Praziquantel (EquiMax or Zim. Gold) with other drugs as well. Not necessarily because of the worms becoming resistant over time, but because even though that drug combination does get a very wide spectrum of worms, it STILL misses some. Below is a summary I wrote up for a friend: ---------- Regarding drug types and effectiveness: The drug class BENZIMIZADOLE includes two sub-types, OXIBENDAZOLE ("Anthelcide EQ") and FENBENDAZOLE (Panacur and SafeGuard). Of those two sub-types, the Fenbendazole is effective against far more types of worms. HOWEVER, each group has some worms where it is the ONLY drug that will kill it. Oxibendazole is the only one that I found that will kill Large Roundworms, and Fenbendazole is the only one that I found that will kill Encysted 3rd-Stage Small Strongyles (also called just Encysted Strongyles sometimes)... and you have to give a double dose over 5 days for it to be effective for that. IVERMECTIN (Zimectrin, Equimectrin, etc.) will kill several types that aren't killed by the Benzimizadole drugs... these types include Hairworms, Lungworms, Large Mouth Stomach Worms, and Bots. PRAZIQUANTEL, which is found mixed with either Moxidectin (QuestPlus AKA ComboCare) or Ivermectin (Zimectrin Gold and EquiMax), is the only drug that kills tapeworms. When comparing the effectiveness of different drugs against different types of worms, I did not include Moxidectin because my barnlord won't let us use it anyway. The information is below, though, in case someone wants it. MOXIDECTIN (Quest) is effective against: Large Strongyles, Small Strongyles, Encysted Small Strongyles in the Late L3 and L4 stages, Ascarids, Pin Worms, Hair Worms, Large-mouth Stomach Worms, Horse Stomach Bots, and Neck Threadworms. It is not effective against Tapeworms, and does not seem to be effective against Encysted Early 3rd Stage Small Strongyles, Roundworms, and Lungworms. I was unable to find any evidence of its reputed toxicity, although I did find several studies where it was proven NOT to be toxic even with doses of 5-6x the recommended levels. The horses did get sick, but they recovered with no permanent effects. There is a very interesting rotational chart at http://www.getrotationright.com/barnchartview.asp . This chart is what got me started on my research... I wanted to verify all the info independently because the chart was put together by the makers of SafeGuard and Panacur. ;) ---------- Sorry for all the extraneous information. :) I'm annoying that way. LOL Again, if someone has contradictory info, please speak up... I'm no vet, I just read a lot! -Sharon Kenney & Zephyr's Elegant Gift Going to use the new Equimax that is suppose to take care of tapeworms in addition to the usual stuff. My question is: Will I still need to do the 5-day Purge or will the Equimax be sufficient? If 5-day Purge is still recommended...is that for the encysted strongyles? =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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