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[RC] Daily Wormer - Roger RittenhouseContinuing on - with Heidi's comment. Yes true the Universities and or Pfizer SHOULD do some real controlled studies of this . According to the Pfizer spokesman (DVM) I called,, and the many to whom I have discussed this subject -at trade shows, - They in-fact do take customer complaints serious and will try to work with the rider and 'suspected' horses. I do believe IF the rider who may be using this product, and perceives Performance related issues - i.e. lack of energy, many low order colic's, metabolic issues or what ever -- to first get the horse scoped. This rules out ulcers, and my show the enteritis, or may show nothing. ONE theory I heard and do not place much stock in it, is even though the drug is not absorbed, the horse's digestive and 'energy' system is affected it, sort of the energy of the drug interferes with the natural energy flows of he horse. This is sort of the far out theory that wants to link it to homeopathic or Chinese medicine concept. A bit of a reach, but then like Heidi said - those of us who have been using herbs for years just KNEW they really work. NOW the drug companies agree and want to stop OTC sales of herbs... and market them. The common practice here is sort of like this. The horse is going hard and fast with many rides really working, AND its on daily wormer. The reason for the performance problems is attached to the wormer. The horse is left off - to recover AND the wormer is stopped. Horse goes back to work a month or so later and does great.. Problem solved it was the WORMER.. and NOT the rest down time??? I wonder IF it would be of any value to AERC? to ask the Research Comm to look into working a research project with a Univ. or Pfizer - how about KER? to see If there is really any science here? Pfizer has allot to gain if a good project can set this aside. ( or ALLOT to loose also) -- Roger mailto:roger@xxxxxxxxxxx I'd also add that the ONLY horses that seem to have problems as a group are the endurance horses. And while Roger is right that there is no "real science" behind this, there is enough anecdotal experience from quite a variety of really sharp and very experienced veterinarians to suggest that perhaps science ought to get on the stick and take a look at it. I'd suspect the observations about daily dewormers and anterior enteritis in endurance horses, given the number of observances, the wide distribution of cases, and the level of expertise of the numerous veterinarians that have felt there might be a connection, are far more apt to be valid than Roger's one-rat studies. (Not to say that Roger's one-rat studies aren't valid for his own horse--they are. But they don't suggest a trend, whereas the sheer volume of anecdotal reports about daily dewormers and anterior enteritis in endurance horses DO suggest a possible trend.) "Science" used to think that herbal medicine was bunk, too--until folks started to actually look, and found out that the herbs were full of all sorts of nifty pharmaceuticals that do, indeed, often have very profound medical effects... Just because science hasn't progressed far enough to unravel a particular thing does not make it unreal. Heidi =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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