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Re: [RC] Treeless Saddles - Karen Sullivan

Some thoughts........
 
I think the weight distribution issue is a myth with treeless saddles.  I will not claim they are always perfect; but they have worked for me without any problems of slipping or weight distribution problems.  Bob Marshall Sport saddles have designed the saddle to distribute weight by a combination of where the riders seat, and thighs are, plus the rigging AND stirrups are hung from a Y shaped webbing system that goes to both pommel and cantle.  People that might have problems are ones that might two-point an entire ride, or ones that might just sit for hours.  If you ride with some posting, and post gently off  your thighs (not slamming down in the seat or stirrups), you will probably be okay. 
 
Other brands of treeless saddles may hang stirrups from a single strap that goes over the back of the horse; those brands I would definatly avoid.  Try to find brands that spread the weight of the stirrup over the whole panel or split the rigging.  Then again, English saddles hang the stirrups off bars that come right off the front fork of the saddle-ouch!
 
Keep in mind a saddle tree can only distribute weight evenly if it REALLY fits the horse well.  Between all the mass-produced trees out there, and horses with poor back conformation; it's no wonder you see so many horse with huge white spots (unfortuntaely even at endurance rides). 
 
Treeless saddles may not work with horses with truly bad back conformation or really bad, unbalanced or weak riders that flop hard on the horses backs....but then, very few saddles will work well either.
 
Traditional saddles with trees can have problems by being too narrow at the pommel and pinching, too flat in the bars and bridging the back, etc, there are a multitude of problems that can occur.  These saddles won't even begin to distribute weight well.   Even saddles with flexible panels, another new innovation, will not work it the tree is too narrow!
 
As far as slipping, I don't find mine slip, even with a loose cinch and I can mount from the ground either side. I use a neoprene cinch, not tight.  I do not get on by pulling the saddle toward me, I have one hand in the mane, the other arm across the back of the saddle, and step up....
 
I will admit I once tried one of the early versions of the Torsion.  It had air bladders in the pomme and cantle.  It seemed very uncomfortable and bulky, and had no stability at all, really slipped a lot.
 
Karen
----- Original Message -----
From: V.Roush
To: RC
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 11:42 PM
Subject: [RC] Treeless Saddles

I'm shopping for a saddle myself, so...
 
Besides the mounting question (how *do* you mount without the saddle twisting?) I wonder how good the weight distribution is with a treeless saddle.  I can understand the flexibility issue, but wouldn't the poor weight distribution cancel out the benefit of extra flexibility?
 
 - Victoria

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