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I've confirmed the weight division question with the office 
and it's exactly as Nancy says below and Heidi posted earlier.

If you lose weight after June 1 and drop to a lower weight 
division - you will need to carry weight to make up the 
amount necessary for the weight division you have with the 
office June 1.

In practice this only matters if you place in the top 10 in 
that weight division because there are no division points 
after the 10th placing in a category.

One better solution that was suggested is to change to the 
lighter category prior to June 1.  You can always ride 
heavier than a division and it's your incentive to lose the 
weight...:-)

And no - your points do not follow from one division to 
another if you change prior to June 1.  This means that a 
rider may have points in 2 weight divisions.  If they ride a 
lot in a region where there are a small number of members - 
in principle - it's  possible for them to place in 2 weight 
divisions.  For members who do care how they accumulate 
points - it's important for them to consider the "loss" of 
those points if they change weight divisions.  This may mean 
carrying weights.

Your points do follow to a new region if you change before 
June 1.

The statement below: Even if someone isn't going for points, 
the placement they take in a particular weight division 
affects the points of the other riders. Even if they are not 
a member of AERC they "take" the points from their 
particular placement in a weight division.

Non-members do not get any points and have no weight 
division.  I don't see how they can affect AERC member points.

Mike



Nancy Mitts wrote:

> It wouldn't hurt to point out here that the weight minimum must be met, 
> no matter where AERC will record the points. So if the registered HW 
> person losing weight after June 1 continues to ride, and AERC will not 
> change their weight division, their "points" are actually for nothing if 
> they do not carry the minimum weight in some fashion. A rider's weight 
> may be challenged at any time by another rider. So if someone riding HW 
> is challenged at a ride & weighs only 200#, and it's past the date to 
> change divisions, they would have to be disqualified. Someday, this will 
> happen to someone who is placing in a division and be a real mess. Of 
> course there would be no way to go back and "prove" their weight at 
> previous rides.
> Even if someone isn't going for points, the placement they take in a 
> particular weight division affects the points of the other riders. Even 
> if they are not a member of AERC they "take" the points from their 
> particular placement in a weight division.  Monte won the Central Region 
> HW 5 times and 2nd place 4 times (9 years straight) even though he would 
> be near the pack of the ride. So, this does affect everyone in the ride, 
> even at the back of the pack.
> I have tried to point out in the past the potential problems with the 
> way the office has been doing this, but no one else seemed to see a 
> problem. Actually I'll bet most of the riders don't even know this is 
> really happening. The people who do change weight divisions part way 
> through the year are taking their points already accrued with them from 
> one weight division to another. This would/should change the points for 
> everybody in every ride they have done in that weight division, as well 
> as the division they are changing into.
>
> Nancy Mitts
>
>
> > From: Michael Maul <mmaul@xxxxxxxxx>
> > Let's say you were a MW and then lost weight do you change to
> > a LW?
> > ***** Only if you cross the boundary from MW to LW with all your 
> > tack.  If you did - you need to notify the AERC office before June 1.  
> > You can change your weight division(and region) up to that date.  
> > After that date your weight division can't be changed again until the 
> > next ride season starts on Dec. 1.  If you are a HW on June 1 and lose 
> > 100 lbs - all your results for the rest of the season will still be 
> > entered as HW.
>
>
> >  Obviously it is advantages to be a light middle weight if you are going
> > for points or whatever, but what about the everyday rider who finishes 
> > at the
> > back. Does it really matter?"
> >
> > ***** No in my view...
> >
> > Mike Maul
>
>
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