[RC] [RC] going from treeless back to conventional saddle - Deanna GermanKaren wrote: Are there others who have gone from conventional to treeless, and then returned back to conventional? Yes!! I tried a Sports Saddle the first couple of years of CTR. I had to sell it because I couldn't ride 5 miles without my hips screaming at me to get off and walk. Not only that, my position wasn't centered and I couldn't get my legs on my mare. It was just a bad match of saddle/rider/horse. Treeless works great for a lot of people and horses, but you have to use what works for you and your horse. If both aren't happy, ain't no one happy. I am much quieter, more balanced, and therefore more effective in a well-fitting treed saddle. I think because I have short, muscular legs, and my mare is so flat and broad, that without some help from a tree, I just cannot correctly get my legs around her barrel. My mare is a leggy, narrow tube and I'm on the tall side of average with average length legs. Still the same problems as what you had with leg and position. I bought a used OrthoFlex Endurance Cutback and found heaven in a saddle. I recently bought an old, very used Wintec Pro Dressage as a spare saddle. I love it! I tried out lots and lots of English type saddles and found that this seat is most similar to my OF and I'm very secure in it despite the lack of thigh rolls. >ggg< It reminds me of treeless saddles in one aspect: I can feel every movement of my horse beneath me which is a good thing when schooling on the flat and trying to feel those subtle improvements in carriage. I admit I can't feel squat through my OF, one must be very in tune with the body moving through space to feel the horse round up. (A lot of people will say that they feel like they are too far above the horse in an OF. I think what's really happening is that they simply can't feel their horse.) Yup, I need a tree. Bareback and treeless isn't for me either. But I also need a dressage seat with stirrup bars in the dressage position. Tried to ride in a hunt saddle recently and felt like a bumbling idiot, so unbalanced. And the seat was so HARD! >ggg< I looked and investigated and have concluded that Wintecs are a good saddle at a good price; therefore a good value. (They sure do have good resale value on eBay!) If I didn't have the OF, I'd give the Wintec a try for at least an LD. Take care. Deanna =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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