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Funny thing but we have oleander at the country club too and none of 
the horses have ever eaten any.  This is a stable full of Arabs that 
are half goat.

Maryanne
Cairo

On Oct 26, 2004, at 10:34 PM, TypeF (Jackie Floyd) wrote:

> Unfortunately, my horse's corrals are immediately adjacent to a 
> vineyard road, and then a 20ft. high wall of oleanders that goes the 
> length of my property that is on my neighbor's place. Nothing I can do 
> about it. They're his plants.
>
> However, we have lived here for 10 years now and the horses ignore the 
> leaves that blow into their corral. The neighbor does not rake his 
> leaves up so a lot of the dried ones end up there when it's windy. My 
> horses will eat everything in site but they will not touch those 
> oleander leaves. It's not to say that one day they will eat them by 
> accident. But I'm kinda of stuck unless I can talk my husband into 
> moving off the property his father was born on 90 years ago. But 
> that's highly unlikely.
>
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> Subject: [RC] Oleander (was warning for CA horses)
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> I lost a horse years ago to Oleander poisoning. I had always been told 
> that "one bite won't kill them". Well, how WRONG that statement was. 
> As many in CA know, some cities plant Oleander not only along the 
> freeways, but also along some bridle trails. (go figure) This horse 
> was young, and was one who tried to grab bites of things as he went 
> down the trail. Well, he grabbed a bite of Oleander. I really did not 
> think much of it, as he seemed to spit it out. A  day or two later, he 
> fell over dead. The days between the bite of oleander and when he 
> died, he had the most mild signs of colic. I still had not thought 
> about the oleander being a cause. He was eating some, drinking some, 
> but just a tad off. One of those colics that we look at as a mild 
> tummy ache that many of us just watch, but don't call the vet out to 
> check the horse.(not that he could have saved him anyway, as I still 
> had not remembered the Oleander)  Oleander causes sudden death in some 
> cases by heart failure, which is what I am sure my horse had, as he 
> was standing, and then just fell dead.
>
> I remembered the bite of Oleander some days later, and started to 
> research it. I found out ALL stages of the plant are poisonous, and it 
> does not matter if it is fresh or dried. In some cases, a few leaves 
> can kill a horse (or other animal). People have been made very ill 
> from trimming the bushes and not wearing  protective clothing, and 
> getting the oils from the plant on them. Some have been made ill from 
> the smoke of burning oleander, and I read of some folks using Oleander 
> "sticks" to roast marshmallows. (oops!)   This is a NASTY, NASTY 
> plant, and should not be anywhere around horses. If I remember 
> correctly, the city of Norco CA has a law,  that does not allow 
> Oleander planted in the city. (they have a huge horse population)  
> Trimmed plants, or leaves that have fallen can indeed blow into a 
> horse's pen, and get ingested by accident.
>
> After losing a horse from him grabbing a bite of foliage while I was 
> riding, I no longer allow my horses to grab bites at random. If I want 
> them to eat along the trail, I pause, and give them the signal (I tell 
> them "bite") to let them know they can eat. There are many more plants 
> out there that can poison a horse, or just make them sick, if they 
> happen to grab a bite of it by accident. And many horses who get in 
> the habit of going down the trail grabbing bites on the go, often grab 
> at any plant. Not worth the risk to me, of them grabbing something 
> that is potentially poisonous.
>
> If you have oleander around your horses, I'd get it removed.
>
> Jonni
>
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