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RE: [RC] [RC] The Sultan's Slave Trade - Potato

This tread reminds me of the time I heard a horrible story about a young
girl that was very terribly verbally abused.
I really liked this kid, so I personally asked her if the story was true.
Mind you it was very difficult to even ask as it was also difficult for her
to answer.  Believe me one phone call and the authorities would have been
code 3 to rescue her.
Her reply to me was that, yes it was true.  However she pleaded for silence
as her only other option was much worse.  That happened years ago, now on
occasion I see this young lady and she is a fine person, no signs of what
one would suspect would be a totally spaced out person.  MORAL OF THE STORY!
We never know all the details, so spend your efforts on things where you
really can make a difference and don't believe all you hear, especially on
the news and even more so during a election year!  So go ride!
Potato
Sliger Mine Ranch
Going out riding now!


-----Original Message-----
From: ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Howard Bramhall
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 11:18 AM
To: ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [RC] [RC] The Sultan's Slave Trade


10/22 10:00 AM HBO - EAST REAL SPORTS WITH BRYANT GUMBEL '04 91
TVPG 58 Sports
10/22 10:00 AM HBO LATINO - EAST REAL SPORTS WITH BRYANT GUMBEL '04 91
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10/22 8:00 PM HBO High Definition - EAST REAL SPORTS WITH BRYANT GUMBEL '04
91
TVPG 58 Sports
10/22 8:00 PM HBO LATINO - EAST REAL SPORTS WITH BRYANT GUMBEL '04 91
TVPG 58 Sports
10/22 8:00 PM HBO - EAST REAL SPORTS WITH BRYANT GUMBEL '04 91
TVPG 58 Sports

This is the show.  The UAE camel jockey story is the first one they cover
and lasts about 30 minutes.  Please, watch this show if at all possible.
Once you see it you will feel differently about doing any type of business
with these Sheihks unless the money green demon has overtaken your soul
completely.

Looks like tomorrow, either at 10 am (EST) or 8PM (EST). It should be on the
west coast HBO at the same time for them.

For other regions and their times log on to hbo.com and check out their
schedule of Real Sports.  Ignore all of this if you so choose but if you
watch it you will no longer turn a blind eye to this vicious dehumanizing
activity.  We need to cut this cord.   Sever all ties with the slave
traders.  Pull the plug because it's the only way to save these kids.  Talk
is cheap but action speaks volumes and we need to speak out here.

cya,
Howard


----Original Message Follows----
From: Maryanne Stroud Gabbani <msgabbani@xxxxxxx>
To: Howard Bramhall <howard9732@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [RC] The Sultan's Slave Trade
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 18:35:55 +0200

Just was talking by AIM with my daughter in New York. She has a friend  with
a TIVO and wants to know when the program will be on so that Sam  can record
it.

Maryanne Stroud Gabbani
Cairo, Egypt
www.alsorat.com
http://miloflamingo.blogspot.com
On Oct 21, 2004, at 5:51 PM, Howard Bramhall wrote:


I forgot to ask if you get HBO out there?  You see, this paticular  Sports
show is not part of the regular news media.  HBO is different;  it's why I
love it so much.

I hope you get a chance to see it like I did.  It might even surpise  you
how they got on film things that the Sultans did not want folks to  see.
Quite incredible, really.

cya,
Howard (stick with me M'Lady and we just might bring em down)

----Original Message Follows----
From: Maryanne Stroud Gabbani <msgabbani@xxxxxxx>
To: Howard Bramhall <howard9732@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [RC] The Sultan's Slave Trade
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 08:50:54 +0200

Just a question, Howard. You are a thinking man, despite what many may  say
<G>, and does it bother you that something this horrific has been  only
considered to be of interest NOW?  Like I pointed out, the news  has been
out there, it isn't secret. So why does the media in the US  produce these
things so selectively?

People WANT to believe that things are hunky dory, everyone does, it's  a
human trait. It's also a human trait to mess up the world enough  that
things are not hunky dory.  The media in the US is "free" in that  it can
say what it wants, but it is also so utterly managed that you  all end up
knowing just about the things that "whoever it is" wants  you to know
about.

Bringing this to the attention of whatever powers that be about 10  years
ago could have saved the lives of countless children.  The  government has
known, the UN (who have no regulatory powers) have  known, the world media
has known.  Who figured that the Americans  didn't have to know...and why?

Maryanne Stroud Gabbani
Cairo, Egypt
www.alsorat.com
http://miloflamingo.blogspot.com
On Oct 21, 2004, at 12:00 AM, Howard Bramhall wrote:


I'm not sure if you're aware of this or not but I do believe  Corbelletta
is on that Tevis Committee, you know, the ones who  accepted their money.

I'm almost sure I have that one right.  He's connected and,  obviously,
it's not because of his religious beliefs.  haha.

cya,
Howard (show me the money)

----Original Message Follows----
From: Maryanne Stroud Gabbani <msgabbani@xxxxxxx>
To: Howard Bramhall <howard9732@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [RC] The Sultan's Slave Trade
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 22:29:35 +0200

Yeah, but it gives assholes like Corbelleta a chance to go on about  "that
religion" and those people. We are "that religion" and it makes  us sick
too. Think anyone listens?

Maryanne Stroud Gabbani
Cairo, Egypt
www.alsorat.com
http://miloflamingo.blogspot.com
On Oct 20, 2004, at 7:33 PM, Howard Bramhall wrote:


It may be old news to you but, to me, it wasn't.  Seeing it on TV  like
that, knowing they filmed this two months ago while I was going  through
a series of hurricanes, disturbed me a great deal.

I plan on flaming this one for as long as I can.  I'm sick and tired  of
the hypocrisy.  We need to break this cord completely with them.   It's
the only way they will ever change.

I love ya darlin.

cya,
Howard

----Original Message Follows----
From: Maryanne Stroud Gabbani <msgabbani@xxxxxxx>
To: Howard Bramhall <howard9732@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [RC]   The Sultan's Slave Trade
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 19:19:42 +0200

Hmm, Howard. Be interesting to see what can of worms you've opened  here.
The camel jockey trade may be news over there but we've known  about it
forever. Along with the orfi marriages of young village  girls to
visiting Arabs who then leave them high and dry and the  virtual slavery
of the Indian, Pakistani, Bangladeshi, and Sri  Lankan servants. The
Arabs, both Saudi and Gulf, are freaking  notorious.  But then who's
gonna listen to the Egyptians? They come  here to play around all summer.
The one time that they DON'T come is  during Ramadan because no alcohol
is served and the casino's are  closed to Muslims. During Ramadan they go
to Greece, Turkey, and  Europe to party.

Old news, Howie.


Maryanne Stroud Gabbani
Cairo, Egypt
www.alsorat.com
http://miloflamingo.blogspot.com

On Oct 20, 2004, at 7:01 PM, Howard Bramhall wrote:



Last night, during the commercial breaks of the Red Sox magical
comeback against the Yankees, I flipped around my cabel channels  and
came upon an HBO show titled ?Real Sports? with Bryant Gumble.   The
story they were discussing was about Camel jockeys in the  United Arab
Emirates.  These jockeys are young boys, aged 4 to 9,  and they all
weigh less than 50 lbs.

I never went back to the baseball game until everything Bryant?s  crew
had to say and film about this disgusting practice was  concluded.
Watching it made me upset, angry, and I felt betrayed.   Betrayed by my
own country for doing business with these people,  those Almighty
Sultans of Swing, and even betrayed by some  endurance riders who go
over there and might (I emphasize the might  part) know that this kind
of crap is going on, just down the road  from the endurance barn, in the
area where the camels are kept.

I went on the HBO Internet site to see if I could get some of what  this
is all about written in their own words, since I?m so upset  about all
of this, I don?t think I can write clearly about what I  watched on
television last night.  This is what they say about this  part of the
show:

Desert RacersCamel racing, the oldest and most venerated sport in  the
Middle East, is a draw for some of the region's wealthiest  sheiks,
whose stables compete for grandiose prizes. Hidden behind  lavish
spectacles, however, is a disturbing reality. The tiny  jockeys who
compete in these races are victims of a horrible slave  trade, all young
boys who have been kidnapped or sold into slavery  as mere infants. In
addition to enduring inhumane living conditions  and beatings, the boys
are intentionally starved to keep their  weight down. Weak from
undernourishment, some are maimed or killed  while trying to pilot the
1500-pound camels. Using hidden cameras,  REAL SPORTS travels to the
United Arab Emirates for a special  expanded report on the perilous
lives of camel jockeys and the  pitiless human traffickers that exploit
them. Correspondent Bernard  Goldberg interviews John Miller, a State
Department ambassador at  large, to determine whether the U.S.
government is doing enough to  stop the practice in this tense political
climate. Correspondent:  Bernard Goldberg.

All I can say, is ya?ll need to watch this show.  It should replay
again this week on HBO.  If you don?t have HBO go to a friends  house
who does and watch it.

We?re talking slavery, pedophilia, beatings and starvation of these
young boys.  They have some absurd rule that the jockey?s must be  young
boys who weigh less than 50 lbs, so, they starve them.   Literally,
bread and water.

There is a direct Sultan of Swing connection here, including the
endurance King of Kings, ole Mr. Mohammed.  Next time one of you
International endurance riders go over there you may want to ask  him
about all of this.  Or, better yet, refuse to participate in  anything
that they sponsor until they come to grips with the rest  of the
civilized world and realize this is incredibly upsetting to  anyone who
has a sense of human decency inside their soul.

I realize that this is some sort of clash of civilizations and that
their world, one where money and power, together, control  everything
and they, these Sultans, literally can do anything in  that world
(theirs) that they wish.  We must let them know this is  unacceptable
and that if it continues we will cut the cord  completely. This cord
never should have been there in the first  place. Otherwise, if we do
not, we are as guilty of the crimes  committed as they.

Tevis, start with getting rid of their sponsorship.  Do it now and  tell
them why you are doing this.

International endurance riders:  Stop going over there.  Tell them  why,
do it now, and, get your fellow competitors to join with you  in this
cause.  Aussies, I?m counting on you, also.

Backyard endurance riders, like myself (I?m not even worthy of that
title), seek and find  the top riders at the next endurance ride  you
attend.  Have the nerve, the courage, to bring up this subject  if the
person you are speaking with has participated over there in  the UAE.
Let them know that you know about all of this and you  want to know what
they think about what is going on.  This will  take courage on your
part.  Watch that HBO show and you will find  the nerve to go up to
someone like my gal, Val, or anyone else who  rides over there, and talk
about the camel jockey young boy slave  trade.

Man?s inhumanity to man, yes, it is in our sport and we need to get  it
out now!!!!

Cya,
Howard (and, please, discuss this one openly on here; do not  pretend it
does not exist or say it?s not endurance related)

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