[RC] Thoroughbreds - k s swigartHomer Safferwiffle said: ...The TB comes from the Darley Arabian, the Byerly? Turk and the Godolphin Barb....The TB and Running QH blood in your Appy would be looked upon as an asset by many, if not most people. Many would prefer the TB/QH blood over the Appy blood. HS<< There is so much in his post about thoroughbreds, their history, and their breeding that is so inaccurate as to almost be absurd. Clearly he knows virtually nothing about Thoroughbreds and everything in the post (except for this statement "TB x Arabian crosses are called Anglo Arabians and many of them have done well on the endurance trail in the past.") should be discounted entirely. :) Since this is not a list about Thoroughbreds and to point out where he was wrong and just how wrong he was would stray significantly from what this list IS about and would require long descriptions about the history of the breed (which few people are likely to be interested in), how they are used today (in just about every equine sport, including endurance), so I am not going to go into it here. People who are really interested in the details about Thoroughbreds can e-mail me privately and I can bore them to tears :). Suffice it to say, thoroughbreds are not, in any sense, purebred arabians, the Byerly Turk and the Godolphin Barb/Arabian??? (since he is sometimes refered to as that) have not been removed from the pedigrees of TB's today, and since these three horses are all stallions, OBVIOUSLY they cannot be the only horses in a thoroughbred's pedigree :). According to the May 1991 Scientific American article, "The Genetics of Thoughbred Horses" 14.6% of the genes in the present population of TB come from the Godlophin Arabian (that's how the article refers to the horse--however, ask any Akhal Teke afficianado and they will insist that the Godolphin horse was an Akhal Teke:)) who is the most prominent, but also 3.1% of the genes come from Old Bald Peg...a mare. 50% of the genes HAVE to come from mares, few of which, if the anecdotal stories from the 17th and 18th centuries are even partially true, were of Arabian descent. That said, in response to the original poster's question, horses of thoroughbred ancestry excel in every horse sport today; however, most (not all--and obviously not in the sport of flat track racing) of these horses are TB crosses of some sort and not "purebred" thoroughbreds. The biggest reason being (I contend) that purebred thoroughbreds are of such a disposition as to not easily be handled by amateurs. Even today, very few breeders of fullblooded thoroughbreds are breeding for the amateur market (almost all of them are bred for the track, and if not bred specifically for the track themselves, they come from immediate parents that were bred for the track who come from stock that has for centuries been bred specifically for the track), nor, I might add, have they been selected for their willingness to be led. :) In my "retraining problem horses" practice, I have had the opportunity to encounter many a thoroughbred that is a problem for its owner. I have had the opportunity to encounter many an arabian of this description too. However, with the arabians, though they can be flighty if roughly handled and difficult if they are afraid, generally speaking I can work with the horse and the owner to help them to develop a relationship of trust and the two will go happily on their way. Almost invariably with a problem thoroughbred, the owner eventually decides that they have neither the expertise, fortitude, nor death wish to work through the problems with their thoroughbred :). And not only that, they also decide that thoroughbreds as a breed just aren't for them. I used to try to discourage people from this decision (since, personally, I LOVE thoroughbreds and wish that everybody could learn to appreciate them the way that I do, because, quite frankly and obviously I am showing my bias here, I am of the opinion that the thoroughbred is THE most athletic horse on the face of the planet :)); however, experience has taught me that, indeed, few thoroughbreds have the appropriate disposition for most amateur owners (note, here that I do not say all:)) and I no longer try to talk these people out of their decision. :( I have, however, also found that this rather difficult disposition is fairly easy to breed away from if you just cross the thoroughbred with....well just about any other breed :). So, if you ask me, you can do no better than a thoroughbred cross (of which the Anglo Arabian is my personal favorite), and since quarter horses ARE known for their tractible dispositions, TB/QH crosses also make wonderful and manageable athletes. I wouldn't steer away from a horse with that breeding just because of its breeding. All this, of course, begs the question entirely, of the traits of the individual horse. There may be plenty about this horse to disqualify it as an endurance candidate, the fact that it has running quarterhorses in its pedigree is not one of them. :) kat Orange County, Calif. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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