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[RC] explosive reactions - Mary Ann Spencer

When we ride horses we are asking them to do things we want them to do and when we want them to do it.  Some are more cooperative and easier to train.  I may sound like repetition but yiedling to the bit is the first thing.  Horse has to respond when you pull his head to the side.  He can't buck well or race off that way.  It does take time tho.  Not sure that the Oct deadline is enough time.  For rides, don't start off with the group.  I had a horse that thought she had to be FIRST, with or without a rider.   One ride, took a 30 minute delay as she would not stand for mounting.  I did not want to ride a horse that was starting off that badly.  Lunged her and when the excitement of the other horses left, she stood just fine.  Did not win the ride but did not eat dirt either.  I ened up riding her in an Aussie saddle as it had a deeper seat and she spooked less--spooking at an uncontrolled full gallop is not fun.  Find a few friends to set your horse up for the problem, ie get them to run past your horse in the other direction or what ever seems to trigger the response.  Try a western, aussie type saddle for deeper seat so you are less likely to  loose your seat.  Take him to other horse events:  ie rodeos, shows when he is not being shown but ask if you can saddle up for the training.  Some shows don't want horses that are not showing on the grounds.   By now you may be afraid, and that is understandable.  A confidence builder horse for you may help you.  Parelli and others training may help both of you.  I prefer Parelli but Lyons has some good stuff too.  The dressage center where I go sends some horses to what we call 'cowboy' camp.  They are exposed to roping and cows and runs thru the woods with someone else on them.  Some dressage lessons are really helplful. 
 
Lastly:  if he knows he has your goat, you have to  convince him otherwise or your partnership will not get better.  Sometimes there is just a personality conflict.   Mare I had that would be out of control during a ride, could be ridden by kids in a show arena:  go figure!!!  Unfortunately, horses are 'dirt' cheap right now so you need to decide what risks of injury you are willing to take.  A borken bone puts you out of riding for 6 weeks.  Good luck. 
                                                          Mary Ann
 
 

From: "Von Simson, Cristiano" <Cristiano.Simson@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: [RC]   Explosive Reactions


Aaron,
My horse also used to buck like that, with his head against his chest. Th=
ere is no way to stay on if he really gets going, and I've kissed the gro=
und a few times.
Other than that he is perfect, and we've won many rides together.
What worked for me was to pull ONE rein, when he begins, to bring his hea=
d to the side, and walk him in circles. If his head is to one side he can=
not buck, and will calm down. After a few times that he could not get goi=
ng the episodes started to be less frequent, and now he hardly ever tries=
.

Good luck,

Cristiano

 -----Original Message-----
From: Aaron Turnage [mailto:ajandcrysta@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2004 3:35 PM
To: ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [RC]   Explosive Reactions

I sit here, perched on the edge of my chair, after
taking a very hard fall this weekend at a ride and
landing right on my rear.  This is not the first time
my horse has dumped me.  In fact, in the year and a
half I have owned him, this is the 8th or so.  And I
am TIRED of it!!!

Almost all of the incidents where my horse has dumped
me have been a result of his reaction to other horses.
 Once at a ride, another horse started bucking in our
direction and my horse took of bucking as well.  He
bucks VERY WELL, high and out to the sides, with his
head arched in to his chest, very hard to ride.
Another two times, he bucked me off (and has attempted
to unsuccessfully a few more times) because I was
holding him back as the "crowd" left at a faster pace.
 He's bucked me off twice at horse shows when another
horse shied at something and he was then spooked
himself.  This weekend, we were coming into the check
as another rider left at a gallop straight towards us
and my horse spooked badly.  He is in a herd
environment at the barn so it's not that he isn't
exposed to other horses on a regular basis.  In fact,
he is the leader of the herd of eight that share the
same field.

When we ride, either by ourselves or with a group, he
can be an EXCELLENT horse.  He is not overly spooky
and usually just does the "drop" spook but doesn't
move side to side or spin.  The problem is he is very
unpredictable as to how he will react when another
horse "freaks out", or takes off, or etc.  I'm at my
wit's end and needing some advice.  The trainer at my
barn has suggested I start carrying a crop and spank
him when he starts bucking.  That and switching to a
different saddle that gives me a little more security.
 She thinks he's learned he can "get away with it" and
it using it as an excuse.  I'm not overly sure about
this and don't want to make the problem worse by
getting after him, although I have no qualms of doing
it if it will help.  I feel sometimes, such as when
the group leaves, he is bucking just to be rid of me
but other times, it might just be an instinctual
reaction of his.

So ideas?  Tips?  Wear velcro?  I've given him until
the end of October to improve or I'm going to be
selling him.  I just don't want the risk.

~ Crysta