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Re: Re: [RC] Conditioning /Herd Behavior - cschiroThat is a really good point you bring up, and that was a concern of mine before the trip - leaving my horse in camp by itself while everyone left to do the ride. However, I really don't think that was the issue for him being such a brat. The two horses on either side on him the whole weekend were in their paddocks also most of the time (one was the photographers and the other was a volunteer workers horse) along with some miscellaneous horses throughout the camp. By the end of the weekend the three of them hated each other, so I don't think he resisted getting in the trailer to be back with them. From: "CS" <csimmons88@xxxxxxxxx> Date: 2004/08/23 Mon PM 06:36:16 EDT To: <cschiro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [RC] Conditioning Miles - What Counts? Rather than it being solely a small space issue I would venture to say he was frustrated with being left in camp when the herd left and when being loaded in the trailer he was again being removed from the 'herd'. Just a thought. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christina Schiro" <cschiro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 6:17 PM Subject: RE: [RC] Conditioning Miles - What Counts?I got some good responses back from people. Thanks from a newbie. I wanted to clarify a few things though. When I do lunge, such as in the round pen, it is only around 10-20 minutes. But with such limited time (and daylight) that I have, I want to put that towards my mileage, even if it comes outtoa 1/2 mile! Someone mentioned riding three times a week, and towards theendof my program I should be around 8 miles, 8 miles, and 15 miles for the three days. However, this is my program that I have worked out based on my schedule: ride four times a week (Tuesday, Wednesday or Thursday,Saturday,and Sunday). Saturday is my long day and right now I am up to 7 miles and will slowly work up to 15. Tues, Wed, and Thursday I ride 3-4 miles eachofthose days and will eventually work that up to 4 or 5 miles on Tues andWedand 8 miles on Saturday. Right now I am up to 18 miles a week andeventuallywill work up to about 30 a week. Tues and Wednesday I ride after work, soIcan't put in more than 3-5 miles. I should mention that I am riding an appaloosa, not an arabian, so does that matter? From what I have read, I believe it does...it takes longer to condition. The last thing I wanted to mention is that even though I board him at a "boarding stable", my horsehasan awesome living situation. He lives out in the country on a 40 acrehorsefarm, has a stall in the 8 stall barn, but attached to each stall is a private 1-5 acre grass pasture that he has 24/7 access to!! The horses get rotated to a different stall/pasture every month or so they get to eat different grasses and learn to live next to different horses. This is why board my horse here and drive 45-50 minutes 4 times a week instead of boarding him closer. I wish I could count the miles he spends motoring around his pasture! He is 6 years old and he has always had this type of arrangement. He has never been forced to be in his stall if he didn't want to be. The only negative thing about his great "home life" is that he hates being confined and he hates being tied for long periods of times. The first and last time I took him overnight (2 nights) camping he had to spend hours atatime and overnight in a 10x10 space (since the park has 10x10 paddocks and stalls, you can't put up your own large pens). I was volunteering at a distance competition and brought him along for the camping experience. I also brought my husband along as the horse-sitter to take him for walks since I was busy most of the weekend, but my horse was still so fed up by the end of the weekend that when I tried to load him in the trailer hegaveme the "in like hell will you get me in that small space" look. I wastiredand just wanted to go home. So I brought out the lunge whip and withanotherperson's help we got him in. We secured the trailer and got in the truck. That's when all hell broke loose. Eye witnesses said my horse just went ballistic. He ended up sticking his front legs through the slats of the stock trailer, then flipping upside down with all four legs sticking straight up. The panic snap didn't unsnap so he head was still attached up high! To make the long story short, he had no major injuries, he is fine now, has been back in the trailer for day trips to the same park with no problems, and yes, we are going camping again next month, again in October and November each, so hopefully he will get used to the camping things before our first ride in January. I figure if people can tame the wild horses of the west, tame them, and stick 'em in stalls, my darn horse will just have to get used to spending a few horses in 10x10 space for a few hours. Christina -----Original Message----- From: GarnerT [mailto:GarnerT@xxxxxxx] Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2004 12:36 PM To: cschiro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [RC] Conditioning Miles - What Counts? Christina: I saw that someone had already talked about lunging, so let me add thatourfirst LD should be done slowly! When I did my first LD on my horse, I was last! I told my husband I would go nice & slow & I did. We have now completed our 1 year of LDs, & 2 years of 50s with no pulls. He istotallysound & we will be doing our first 100 next year! If you start out nice & slow, your horse should do just fine with your schedule. Try to get outonyour day off & do a nice long training ride. Believe it or not, I onlyridemy horse on Saturdays. We go for about 15 - 25 miles. (you would want to do less). He is on 1 acre of pasture, not boarded, so he can move around more than your horse. Believe it or not, I think most people overtrain rather than undertrain. You definitely need to get out on the trail one day a week so your horse gets used to it, but you don't need to train every day. Go slowly on your first year of LDs & work up to speeding down the trail. Have fun & good luck on your first ride! Kathy Garner & Dyecrest Tazan ----- Original Message ----- From: <cschiro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 6:28 AM Subject: [RC] Conditioning Miles - What Counts?I hope to do my (and my horses) first LD this January. I have worked outmy weekly mileage goals from now until then. My question is do my mileshaveto be RIDDEN miles or can extended hand-walking and hand-trotting (a few miles), lunge-line lunging or free lunging in the arena count?? I do the lunging and hand-work for variety and to practice ground-work. I askbecauseI board my horse 45-50 minutes away, go out there 4 times a week, and work full-time, so I want every "step" to count towards my weekly mileage goal. Also since I am taking it very slow with my fairly green horse, I don'twantto go over my mileage for that week.Thanks, Christina =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. 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