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Re: [RC] Horse Identification (Kyro Kinetics) - Dot WigginsI have a recorded brand (Idaho). Had a brass iron made by skilled machinist, hot irons don't work for freeze branding. I think it cost around $40. Last fall we freeze branded 6 horses, including my white grey and a younger darker grey, as well as chestnuts. Clipped the brand area closely. Used liquid nitrogen, and the heavy brass irons. Eight (8) seconds on the dark horses, twelve (12) seconds on the greys. The other horses were slightly sedated, following dental work, mine was not. I did hobble her, she's used to that, just in case. There was no difference in the reaction of the sedated horses and my unsedated horse to the application of the iron, stood rock still. Within 15/30 minutes a raised area appeared in the shape of the letters, and my horse seemed to be aware of some minor discomfort there. She turned her head to it and shifted the shoulder muscles. That may have lasted 45 minutes, there was no indication of discomfort after a 30 minute trailer ride home. The raised area subsided in a few days. Over several weeks there was a thin layer of skin that gradually peeled away. When she was fully shed out this spring there is a perfect brand, mostly bare skin with an edge of coarser white hair. The darker horses grew in white hair for a nice clean brand. I've used hot irons on horses in the past, it works well if the brand itself is a good shaped one, and it is _properly done_. There is a longer healing time, and I suspect more discomfort at the time of application, but many stood rock solid while it was done. I prefer the cold brand, easier and quicker. Both will usually bring the horse home in time, and thieves usually have no interest in a visibly marked horse. I agree in emergency situations any way to put your phone or other quick contact info on the critter is essential. The livestock markers last well, it seems to take forever to get off after a ride, shouldn't think rain would do much to them for few days. Never thought of clipping, but that would take longer to do. Last longer though. I don't seem to have a picture that shows the brand, let me know if it's important to you, I'll try and get one soon. (Horse needs a new picture anyway) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Webmaster" <pmacedir@xxxxxxxxxx> To: <Ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 4:06 PM Subject: Re: [RC] Horse Identification (Kyro Kinetics) Does anybody have a picture of a grey horse's freeze mark? I am thinking of getting Kyro Kinetics to freeze mark my greys, but I'm concerned that it will not show up well and would like picture confirmation. Thanks, April Nashville, TN pmacedir at jadawn dot com On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 08:54:54 EDT, GoldenCMK@xxxxxxx wrote: In a message dated 8/16/2004 3:25:47 AM Central Standard Time, jonnij@xxxxxxxx writes:I think the reason that Kyro Kinetics does the symbols, is that they can not be easily altered, as regular numbers can. While you can change a 1 to a 4, or a 3, 5, 6, or 7 to an 8 etc., the symbols can not be altered from one symbol to another. KK made a mistake many yrs ago on my stallion and they altered the symbols to fix it. Besides to many people are not going to go through that much trouble to find the same size brand, find liquid nitrogen and change a number. The main reason I did it was for horses that were sold or resold and papers never get transfer then someone down the road wants papers. These horses can always be IDed. Another good reason was when I went to someone's farm after the death of the owner, all they had were 30 greys and no one knew who was who. Several of the older ones were freeze branded, they were IDed, papers were transferred and they went on but the other never were figured out so were sold without papers. Maria =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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