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Re: [RC] LD/Endurance/BC - Joe LongOn Sun, 16 May 2004 21:00:40 -0400, Truman Prevatt <tprevatt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: That's fine Joe, but it is not specified in the bylaws. This post was about the bylaws. The bylaws leave the awarding of all prizes - how they implement record keeping, how they divide weight division if they want to count total mileage to the BOD. It is not covered or specified in the bylaws. Where in the bylaws does it specify that the HW division starts at 211 or where does it specify that there is a 4% grace on weight division. It is not. These issues are left to the political process to deal with. Who has claimed that they are not? It is the definition of an Endurance ride, and therefore Endurance riding, that is the issue here, and the Bylaws are quite explicit and clear on that. 4.01(a) and 4.01(b) define Endurance rides and Limited Distance rides, respectively. The Bylaws also specifically require the maintenance of records and awards specifically for Endurance riding (defined spcefically in 4.01(a) as not less than 50 miles) . Conmingling records from other kinds of rides would not fullfill that requirement. Regarding your attempt to turn these on their head and claim that they somehow define LD rides as Endurance rides: Note the line in 4.01(b) that says, " The Limited Distance Ride must be held in conjunction with an Endurance Ride..." If an LD ride *was* an endurance ride, this stipulation would make no sense. The relevant section of the Bylaws: ARTICLE IV DEFINITIONS 4.01. A "Ride" shall consist of one of the following events in which the equine shall be under the control of veterinarians experienced with equines or endurance riding. All riders who successfully complete the Ride must receive a completion award. There shall be no minimum time limit for completion. (a) "Endurance Ride." An Endurance Ride is defined as an athletic event in which the same equine and rider cover a specified course of not less than 50 miles within a maximum time limit proportional to 12 hours per 50 miles and conforms to the Rules in effect at the time of the Ride. The Endurance Ride must be open to all breeds of equines at least 60 months of age as determined under the AERC Rules. The winner of the Ride is the equine and rider who successfully complete the course in the fastest time. An award for the equine judged to be in best condition must be available, though may not be awarded if no equine meets minimum criteria. (b) "Limited Distance Ride." A Limited Distance Ride" is defined as an event in which the same equine and rider cover a specified course of between 25 and 35 miles within a maximum time limit proportional to 6 hours per 25 miles and conforms to the Rules in effect at the time of the Ride. The Limited Distance Ride must be held in conjunction with an Endurance Ride and must be open to all breeds of equines at least 48 months of age as determined under the AERC Rules. -- Joe Long jlong@xxxxxxxx http://www.rnbw.com ============================================================ I still prefer what it is that BH100, Tevis, The Duck's Soup of Endurance, etc. has to offer...but, to see a horse canter over sand for those distances...Good Lord, it humbles me. ~ Frank Solano ridecamp.net information: http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/ ============================================================
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