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Re: [RC] Forced to go without shoes - 101334.2754@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

This is a very common problem especially in short backed arabs with big trots. 

Shorter heels on the shoes might help as the front shoes will be harder to 
catch that way , although this does
reduce support to the foot which can be a problem in long term endurance
my husband (farrier, aren't I lucky!!!) also has had succes with grinding down 
the edges of the front shoes to help
the hindshoe 'slide' off it in case it does catch the front shoe. Other 
solutions to try are making sure the hindfeet
are very well pared down in front, slightly setting back the shoes so that the 
when your horse does touch front foot with
hind, the foot touches before the shoe does. Bringing up the toe of the hind 
feet slightly can help, or alternatively
ask your farrier if he can use slightly heavier shoes in the back (with a good 
amount of heel) - this alone is sometimes
enough to gain those few milimetres/seconds necessary to stop your horse 
yanking off his front shoes... combine this with
light front shoes which will just slightly shorten the time lag before the 
horse picks up his front feet which means that
they will be gone by the time the hindfoot moves over. If he overreaches in 
line with the front legs, slightly changing
the balance of hind shoes can help him to track wider and thus avoid the front 
feet...

Bellboots can be a short term solution too. 

there are loads of potential solutions out there...

good luck - and keep us posted on your progress! 
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Exp.:   "Barbara McCrary", INTERNET:bigcreekranch@xxxxxxxxxx
A:      , INTERNET:ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
       "Catfish Daniels", INTERNET:catfishdaniels@xxxxxxxxxxx
       
Date:   14/04/2004 01:00 

RE:     Re: [RC]   Forced to go without shoes


We are having a problem with a gelding that is a
shoe-snatcher....over-reaches and grabs the heel of the front shoe and yanks
it right off.  Our farrier is going to try one more trick, shoeing tight
with no extra shoe sticking out anywhere.  In the meanwhile, we are using
Easyboots and the horse is going fine.  We tried Boa Boots and he was
sensitive. The Boa Boots have a flat insole and a flat outside surface.
There is no "dead space" between his foot and the rocks on the ground, so he
was rock sensitive.  Now he has been barefoot for many weeks, so maybe he
wouldn't be so sensitive.  Haven't tried the Boa Boots recently.  The
Easyboots do work.  Maybe it would be possible for your horse to use them
instead of shoes?

Barbara

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From: "Catfish Daniels" <catfishdaniels@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 2:29 PM
Subject: [RC] Forced to go without shoes



Recently there was a lot of discussion about going bare (without shoes).
With me always having had shoes on my horses, I admit that I pretty much
pressed the "delete" button when it came to reading those posts.  Well, my
young mare is having some pretty bad foot problems.  Basically, she's not
growing any hoof.  It's been 9 weeks since her last shoing, and today my
farrier, who I really consider very knowledgable, said that he absolutely
had no hoof to work with.  He could only pull the shoes and recommend that

I

leave her in a soft pen for at least the next 6-8 months.  His theory, no
shoes=more stimulation and blood flow=better growth of the hoof wall.

I bought this mare last November and realized that she had a low heel, but
otherwise nice, wide and large strong appearing hoofs.  So I supplemented
with Biotin.  Her hoof growth did not improve, which made the next two
shoing jobs very difficult.  Today there was absolutely nothing to work

with

and my farrier said that she will never have the feet to support what I'm
asking her to do.  He recommended for me to sell her to somebody that is

not

going to do endurance.

She is an ex-race horse and an incredible athlete.  She even did a slow 50
already with great vet scores, and she's only 5 years old.  We've put on a
lot of training miles already, LOTS of training miles.  Her body is
extremely athletic with awsome confirmation and bloodlines.   What I'm
getting at is that I have a hard time giving up my endurance dreams with
her.

Now, I truly believe that sometimes it is best for the horse not to push

the

issue when it isn't suitable for the sport.  But before I even think about
going that route, I would really appreciate ANY input anybody has in

regards

to that.  Terry Banister, if you read this, I know you are an advocate for
going bare (your horse, of course).  I've seen you at 20 Mule and your
horse's feet looked awsome.  Right now my mare is down to absolutely NO
heel.

This also leads me to the question of all the discussions recently, about
boots people use in that 6-8 month transition period.  What are the best
boots out there for the purpose of training rides - pros and cons, etc.  I
know I'm asking a whole lot in this one e-mail, but...ANY amount of input

is

greatly appreciated.  Thanks.

Catfish

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