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Re: [RC] even more absurd - heidiPlease Reply to: Ray O'Donohue rno2m@xxxxxxxxxxxx or ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ========================================== If your ranching family ranches on public land,you cannot expect to be beyond criticism or oversight.As a bonus,you are apparently getting the usual western identity ego boost out of it,subsidised.Grow up. Ray, listen up. Ranchers are NOT subsidized. Many HAVE gone out of business--not because they COULDN'T make a living if left to their own devices, but because the losses inflicted on them by the Federal Government have tipped the balance. You say you have plenty of nice fat Angus in your area. Well, you know where many of the top breeding animals to PRODUCE those nice fat Angus come from? Two of the top breeders in the country are right here in Lemhi County. I'll lay odds that there are producers in your area that have genetics from good rural "public lands" Angus cattle in their herds. Additionally, shrinking the market makes the prices go up. If you run a major portion of the American cattlemen out of business, your nice comfy little pasturelands breeders may find that the entire business is affected, and may well be impacted, too--never mind that the price you find at the supermarket may well go beyond what your pocketbook can bear. If you are dishing out advice to "grow up", I would submit that part of "growing up" is learning to get the facts about things before you spout off. You might want to start by learning the facts of the beef industry and the cattleman's interaction with public lands yourself before you put your foot any further down your own throat. You might even want to study the economic structure of several western states--including where the taxable income comes from (since so much land is federal and does not provide a tax base in and of itself)--before you spout off about the economics of the public lands. Keep in mind that if the public lands don't bring some income into the federal coffers, then anything that goes on to benefit those lands has to come out of YOUR pocket. Additionally, very dollar earned on public lands circulates through the economy just like every dollar earned elsewhere--something like 7 or 8 times. Every time it is taxed. Here in the West, virtually every dollar in the economy is tied somehow to public lands--without using those lands in a functional manner, several western states would be broke, never mind what those same citizens contribute to the federal coffers. Perhaps you need to go back to Basic Economics 101 and learn about money, Ray. Heidi ============================================================ By three methods we may learn wisdom: First, by reflection, which is noblest; Second, by imitation, which is easiest; and third by experience, which is the bitterest. ~ Confucius ridecamp.net information: http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/ ============================================================
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