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Re: [RC] What exactly does Non-Toxic mean?--Cryopaks - Ed & Wendy Hauser

"The chemical is Sodium Carboxy methyl cellulose,
Aluminum Sulfate, 18 Hydrate, and
1-(3-chloroallyl)-3,5,7-triaza-1azonisadamantane."

The list sounds like preservatives, and gelling agents.

Sodium Carboxy methyl cellulose:  Non toxic, but  could conceivably cause
loose poop.  In the pack to thicken the water solution.
Aluminum Sulfate: Also part of the thickener.  The aluminum helps the Sodium
carboxy methyl cellulose gel.  In large amounts it may be toxic, but it is
OK in small amounts (look at your baking powder tin, 50-50 it has an
Aluminum salt)

1-(3- blah blah blah.  I don't want to look it up, but it sounds like a
preservative.  Things like that are put into stuff to prevent mold and
bacteria from growing.  Their MSDS usually lists all kinds of bad effects.
This is what must have alerted the poison control folks.  One must remember,
the MSDS assumes that workers are handling 50 lb sacks of the stuff all day
for many months.  The ice packs had less than 1% or so in the water.  If you
had access to the MSDS, you would find that the LD 50 was such that your
horse most likely would have to eat hundreds of ice packs in a day to get
into problems.  Cancer and birth defects are two hot buttons in our society.
Remember, we always (since the dawn of time) have been in contact with small
amounts of substances that can cause both, yet most people and horses do not
get cancer or birth defects from small doses.  Most substances that cause
birth defects have to be ingested, in relatively large amounts, at exactly
the right time in the gestation.

My bottom line:  The ice pack is non toxic.  Would I feed them to my horse
or kids? No  Would I worry if an accidental ingestion happened? No.

People tend to forget that the danger of a chemical relates to how much and
how often it is ingested.  You can get sick from drinking to much water.
Water has an LD 50.

Ed
Ed & Wendy Hauser
2994 Mittower Road
Victor, MT 59875

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