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RE: [RC] [RC] Drug testing - detection and sample size - bobmorrisIn this discussion of the AERC Rule 13 and it's implications, I believe that every one has lost the basic point of the rule. The AERC has no intent to go into the drug detection business. The Rule is very definitive in it's content that the use of drugs is not acceptable and if upon any discovery of their, use certain procedures will be undertaken. The AERC is not an investigative body. It is a Conference made up of like minded individuals that do not care to have the use of drugs prevail with in their chosen sport. To that end they promulgated Rule 13. Zero tolerance!!! What part of the digit 0 is not understood. Parse it in any manner you wish and it still says "0". In other equine sports, the rider, owner, trainer is presumed guilty of drug use unless proven other wise. Presumed guilty simply because they choose to enter into a form of sport known for the use of performance enhancing substances. Do you all care to imply that the same state of affairs exists in the realm of endurance competition? If that is what you see, be honest and so state the problem and stop inveigling it in so much worthless rhetoric. Bob Bob Morris Morris Endurance Enterprises Boise, ID -----Original Message----- From: ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Howard Bramhall Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 8:34 AM To: ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [RC] [RC] Drug testing - detection and sample size I've always wondered why this isn't being done. At least one out of the top ten finishers should be tested at each and every ride. Since this is the group who earns the coveted "awards," points, and jackets, wouldn't it be nice to know that their horses earned it clean? Random is a great idea if it's done but, at least one out of the top ten should be tested every time. If we're going to have a rule like Rule 13 it would do us all well to know that testing will be done at most rides we attend and subsequent enforcement will occur if the horse comes up positive. The owner will have plenty of time to voice their intent during the subsequent trial. cya, Howard From: "Ed & Wendy Hauser" <ranch@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: "Truman Prevatt" <tprevatt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,"AERC" <AERCMembersForum@xxxxxxxxxxxx>,"Ridecamp" <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [RC] Drug testing - detection and sample size Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 22:26:14 -0700 Would it be reasonable to assume that Rule 13 violations would be more common among the top 10 horses in a ride, and thus concentrate the random testing on those horses? If an effective use is being made of prohibited substances, it may be among those who dream of selling the "winning" horse internationally. The monetary value of ride, year end awards, and endorsements is not that great at AERC (that is non-FEI) rides is not that great. Could you recalculate on that basis. It may bring the cost somewhere near that which can be afforded by the AERC. Ed Ed & Wendy Hauser 2994 Mittower Road Victor, MT 59875 ranch@xxxxxxxxxxx 406.642.6490 ____________________________________________________________ _____ Check out MSN PC Safety & Security to help ensure your PC is protected and safe. http://specials.msn.com/msn/security.asp ============================================================ REAL endurance is dressing for 20 degrees in the AM and by noon its 85 degrees! ~ Heidi Sowards ridecamp.net information: http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/ ============================================================ ===========================================================The whole ride experience can be very hard, and at times you question why you put yourself through such abuse. But then you remember all those moments when you pop up over a hill and are suddenly surrounded by the most stunning views. It's just you and your horse and for a moment time stops and you can hear the angels sing. Therein lies the addiction, at least for me. ~ Leslie Beyers ridecamp.net information: http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/ ===========================================================
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