[RC] AERC National Championship/FEI - Ridecamp GuestPlease Reply to: Jan circlebarranch@xxxxxxxxxxxx or ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ========================================== Hopefully this will help the answer questions that the membership might have concerning NC in 2005 having an FEI division offered to the 100 mile riders. If you have any questions, please direct them to us at circlebarranch@xxxxxxxxxxxx Thank you, Bill and Jan Stevens Fort Howes Endurance Rides, Inc. Home of the 2005 AERC National Championship ================================================================ The National Championship Committee would like to clear up a few details concerning the 2005 National Championship to be held at Fort Howes in Ashland, Montana. First and foremost, this an AERC ride. The BOD has approved that the ride have an FEI division to be held along with the AERC National Championship. Basically all it will mean is a separate set of results going to the FEI. All riders wishing to ride in the FEI division have to qualify for the National Championships first. All the costs from putting on the FEI ride will be covered by the riders wishing to ride the FEI portion of the ride and from the ride management; AERC will not be responsible for the added costs. The request was brought to the NC Committee by the AERC International Committee because of the decreased number of FEI rides being held in the US (2003 there were 12, 2004 there are 5). The International Committee felt that loosing another 100 mile FEI ride (Fort Howes has hosted an AERC/FEI 100 mile ride for the past 4 years) would hurt the US and Canadian AERC members who desire to ride at International Events (Pan Am, Worlds, etc). Fort Howes has successfully combined their AERC ride with and FEI division. They have also hosted the 2002 IAHA National Championships (in conjunction with an AERC ride and FEI division). We also understand that this was the largest IAHA National Championship ever held to that point. There has been the question brought up about the speed to which this decision was made. I received the application to host an FEI ride in 2005 in the mail right before I left for the convention. The deadline for filing with the United States Equestrian Federation is March 24, 2004. The fees (approximately $340-depending on the exchange for the Swiss Franc) are due mid June to the USEF. The USEF then takes all the applications (for all disciplines-Jumping, Eventing, Dressage, etc) and sends them to the FEI in August. From there the FEI makes their decisions in November. I was questioned about the late fee. FEI charges a late fee of $700. Concerning about awards etc. It is our belief that the National Championship will stand alone with their awards-completion, weight divisions, and BC. The FEI ride will have completion and BC. There is also concern about the time of the year that the ride is to be held. For some riders the fall is not the best time of the year. Junior riders are in school. Maybe they can take the time away from school work, but if they are in any extra curricular activities such as sports, they wouldn?t be able to take time out for that. There were no juniors in the 100 and only 3 in the 50 at the NC last year. Teachers would have a difficult time getting away. Many businesses plan that their workers take time during the summer for vacations. For those that are involved in agriculture, fall is when they are harvesting and/or planting. It is also limiting to the riders to insist that the ride be held in the fall, some regions have difficulty training in the summer months due to the heat and humidity. Plus, setting a specific month/date for the National Championship every year limits where the ride can be held. The reduced daylight of a fall ride would certainly put rides such as the Big Horn out of the question (not to mention the risk of large amounts of snow-July is the only month they can do it). The Vermont 100, Pine Tree in Maine, or other rides in the NW and Canada would certainly appreciate some more daylight options. Late September and early October can also be questionable as far as the weather is concerned. As I mentioned to Jerry Fruth in the airport waiting to leave Reno on Monday; fire is always the concern in our area. We had a fire here in early August of 2000 that burned over 65,000 acres right outside my living room window. Bill has gone so far as to go out to the basecamp and gather riders and crews that came early to our ride to help put out a lightening caused fire near our trail. June is also about the only time that we can devote ourselves to make the ride the way that we want it to be and that takes 2-3 weeks. We schedule it to fall between branding calves and haying. The temperatures are right and usually the weather tends to cooperate as much as we can help it. Plus we have the advantage of 5 hours more of daylight than the October date. We feel that as long as riders have at least a year?s notice, they shouldn?t have any problems qualifying for the NC. It was brought up that horses might not be ready to do a 100 mile ride in June, we found though note that in looking back through the past 2 years of endurance rides that there are more 100 mile rides with more riders in May, June, and July. Last year the winner of our ride was from Canada, 2nd from Virginia, and third from northern Illinois. One more item; there are only so many 100 mile horses in the US and if FEI and AERC rides are separated then each will impact the other negatively but if they can be combined there is a synergistic effect. At the AERC convention this year Anne Ayala provided a comparison sheet outlining the differences between AERC and FEI rides. Here they are and how they will pertain to the ride: Rider Requirements: AERC: Must be an AERC member or pay day fee. FEI US Riders: Must be member of AERC International, USEF Active Rider with discipline dues paid. For non US citizens, rider must have letter from their National Federation. This is a non-issue. All will be members of AERC anyway. Questions about foreigners coming over and riding-they can as long as they qualify for the NC first. Dress Code: AERC: None, except as established by individual rides (helmets, etc) FEI: Varies according to level of competition, but requires shirt with collar and shoes with heels (or safety stirrup) and approved helmet. No spurs. Non-Issue: FEI riders will follow their rules, AERC riders won?t have to. Horse Identification Requirements: AERC: No ID requirements at present. Event may require Coggins/health papers etc. FEI: Must have FEI or National passport for 3-star (100 miles). Non-Issue: I require from all riders that they come into Montana following Montana statutes at the time. Just as you would when traveling from state to state going to any ride. FEI riders are required to have passports. Weight of Rider: AERC: Riders ride within the established weight divisions. FEI: Riders must weigh in with tack (no bridle) at minimum of 75 kg (165 lb), including juniors riding as seniors. Bottles and fanny packs should be empty and any added weights securely attached/sealed. Non-Issue: The only ones that this will affect are the featherweights & some junior aged riders riding FEI. AERC rules you can weigh more than your weight division calls for, you just can?t weigh less. The Course: On-Trail Crewing: AERC: Rules permit crews to accompany a rider down a public road in support vehicle provided they do not haze or push the equine, unless ride management prohibits this practice. FEI: Assistance may only be given at specific places indicated by OC as crewing locations. Preceding vehicles are expressly forbidden. (Art. 815-16) No crewing is permitted at Vet Gates until after rider has timed in at Arrival Timer. Non-Issue: We don?t allow crewing out on trail unless we specify where. It is a safety issue as well as Forest Service issue. They don?t allow vehicles out on the trails. As for the crewing, we don?t allow crewing prior to the arrival timer because of the congestion that can happen around there. There is plenty of space and time to crew your horse once you have your time. We also don?t allow crewing once you have entered the P&R area. They didn?t allow crewing beyond the P&R area at this years NC. The Finish: AERC: Weighing of riders is optional, except riders standing for BC Award. FEI: Rider must be mounted to cross Finish line. FEI riders will be weighed after finish. Non-Issue: Weighing will follow guidelines for AERC & FEI. FEI riders will be mounted at the finish. Completion Criteria: The post-ride examination Completion criteria (Rules 6.0-3) must be met within 60 minutes of Finish Time. Rules allow more stringent criteria if provided to riders in written form before ride starts. FEI: Completion criteria must be met within 30 min. of Finish Time. It has been customary in the US dual-sanctioned rides to allow a competitor to be disqualified by FEI, and still try to meet the AERC criteria within the hour allowed. Non-Issue: In the past we have done it both ways. We have had the 30 minute requirement for AERC riders and we have done the 60 minute for AERC riders. It has never become an issue. We assume that we will allow the competitor to be disqualified by FEI, and allow them AERC completion if they come down within the hour allowed. Timing of total ride and phases: AERC: Formula for total ride time based on 12 hrs. for 50 miles/24 hrs. for 100 miles. No specific rules for phases, but RM can establish closing times for Vet Gates. FEI: Most US rides follow the AERC formula. Non-Issue: We have always allowed 24 hours to complete the 100 mile event. We haven?t had the need to have cut-off times for vet gates. Parking: AERC: Whatever ride management decides. FEI: Horses traveling on passports are required to be stabled/parked separately from horses without passports (ie required vaccinations reported on paper). Issue and Non-Issue: Certainly this is where things get "dicey" when it comes to the feeling that FEI riders are elitists and are "better" than the AERC riders. We are required to "stable/park" the FEI horses with passports separately from those that aren?t passported. We have done it here in the past with little or no problems (at least none have come to our attention as Truman said) by having all the 100 mile horses? park in one area. There are several reasons that we do this in addition to the FEI requirement. 1-100 mile riders usually come earlier so we part them at the back of the camp so that it can fill up easier. 2-25/50 mile riders don?t like to hear generators and extra noise at 3:00 a.m. when they don?t have to have to start until 8:00 a.m. 3-Vets can find the 100 mile horses easier if they are in one area instead of having to go all around camp looking for them (FEI horses have the 2 hour check after the finish). 4-The reason that the FEI requires separate stabling/parking is the quarantine that they put on the horses at International competitions. Horses are quarantined prior to the event starting so that there is little or no chance for the spread of disease. We realize that this isn?t "international" so to speak, but that is the way that they see it. I?m sure that there are other differences between AERC and FEI. Please feel free to contact us or other members of the National Championship Committee with your questions. Bill and Jan Stevens circlebarranch@xxxxxxxxxxxx ============================================================ Locks do not prevent theft, they only deter those in doubt. ~ Robert Morris ridecamp.net information: http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/ ============================================================
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