Re: [RC] Televising Endurance rides - CharlesWould she be interested in doing a film? I figure the solution will be the modern DV cameras (DV - Digital Video). Then just parking enough people along the trail to make it a go. I wonder if we can get cheap labor at a film school. Charles ----- Original Message ----- From: "DABNEY FINCH" <dabneyesq@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: "Charles" <cdy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Cc: <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 12:26 PM Subject: Re: [RC] Televising Endurance rides My sister-in-law, who's in "the business," (she's a producer and screen writer) says endurance would be problematic to shoot well because you'd have to have a rider carrying a movie camera (I guess that's how they get a lot of their "up close and personal" shots in the Eco Challenges). They did televise the Tevis one year on I think Discovery, but it certainly wasn't up to the old Eco Challenges. I agree with you--those were great (before they got so "reality TV about it). --Dabney ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles" <cdy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "Kristene Smuts" <Ksmuts@xxxxxxxxxxx>; <tprevatt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Cc: <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 2:24 AM Subject: Re: [RC] Televising Endurance ridesHow about televising endurance rides like they do "adventure racing"? The cameras interview everyone and follow some riders on different parts ofthetrail. There is a general voice over (team equus hits a snag at the pass, the horse is slightly off... with a shot of rider checking horse, then an interview "I thought something might be wrong, he usually doesn't turn to the left ....."). The classic style I'm thinking of is Eco Quest back when it was on the Discovery channel. It makes for compelling TV. Charles ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kristene Smuts" <Ksmuts@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <tprevatt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Cc: <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 2:18 AM Subject: Re: [RC] Olympics and SecurityWhere have you been:-). >>Riding! ;-))The marathon is run in 2 hours - not 5 hours.>>OK, so Olympic sports aren't my strongest point (ahem), but I was thinking of things like the ultra marathons, like the London and New York(??) marathons and our Comrades which is about 90 kms. Pre-dawn start and televised on national TV throughout the day - now THAT is watching paint dry! I normally switch on at around the 5 hour point to see who won and then again at the cut-off of 12 hours - my sick sense of curiosity towatchthose who get carried over the line. Anyway, your point of << Ninity nine percent of the spectators for the marathon are sitting right there in the track stadium. They see the first mile and the last half mile - none inbetween.>> Why not translate that to endurance? While the other events are going on, get the endurance horses tostart and do a lap or two around the arena, then head out and have thelastlap or two around the arena again? Our nationals in July does more orlessthat - the start and finish is around a rugby field - start and do half around the field and head out and then when they come in, the people onthestands can see the horses coming in and then do a half an arena before coming over the finish line. The timekeepers can also see the horsescomingin and will play "Chariots of Fire" for each and everyone. It makes for lump in the throat stuff when you see a rider who is totally finished and the crowd egging them on - sometimes a rider will be on foot but the crowd will urge him to get on again to finish mounted. Or two total strangers - before the ride - would come in holding hands and crossing the line at the same time. The organisers of one or two 100 milers have even attempted to put the positions of the riders at different points on the route, up on a black board - it generated a lot of interest, just that little bit of info about the riders (I'm sure a bit of side-betting between grooms was done) I'm sure if people just put their minds to it, it CAN become a spectator sport, without having to have a body count to attract those who love that kind of thing. Also, I'm neither for nor against endurance becoming an Olympic sport, if that's where it's headed, so be it. As long as it is done for the right reasons. Kristene =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. 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