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RE: [RC] pulse - Alison FarrinYes, but my point is, It Doesn't Mean That He Has Not Recovered!!! He spent the last 1/2 hour at 40 -44. I'd love to have my riding buddy's horse. We can't GET his pulse over 210. And he drops like a rock to 90 in 60 seconds or less. And when he recovers past criteria, he just keeps going right on down til you'd think he was dead. <G> But that's not my horse. And truthfully, Ceders is the horse I started with when I decided to ride endurance and he was just what was in the back yard. He wasn't bred for this sport and he's not a shining example of what to pick for an endurance mount. But he also has 1000 competition miles, 750 endurance miles and 3 top tens. (For those of you who want to look him up, he's Caer Donn in the DB) Not bad for the horse equivalent of a nerd. But he is very likely representative of what a lot of folks are riding. And I'm just pointing out, that while very fit with years of base, most of the time, he won't meet the criteria you're proposing. Alison A. Farrin Innovative Pension Innovative Retirement Services 858-748-6500 x 107 alison@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: heidi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:heidi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 9:43 AM To: Alison Farrin Cc: ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: [RC] pulse Would just have to caution that you are getting down to the point where just the base excitement level can shoot a pulse up over your criteria. Both my competition horses have true resting pulses of 28. They vet in pre ride 99% of the time at 40 to 44. If you take his buddy away, Ceders will jump over 50. When I check my HR as we are walking to the out timer during the ride (with me in the saddle) he's almost always 60+. He is at 44 moments before, standing and eating his hay prior to me getting back in the saddle. His pulse goes up some just knowing we are going to go again. FWIW, these are both Arabs. FWIW, the majority of horses DO NOT show this excitement response to this degree. (And a few show it even worse.) The ones that do are a real pain, but I also think that these horses are MORE at risk for problems over the long haul, because they DO "shoot themselves up" with adrenaline, with the accompanying potential detriments to long-term performance. Most horses who do this ARE Arabs (not all), but again, most Arabs don't do it, either. I've done exit exams at most of the rides I've vetted since the late 80's, and the majority of horses (most of which are Arabs) present all tacked up and ready to go with exit pulses in the 40's. I'd suspect many are "up" right at the start of the ride, but for most, this excitement-coupled rise in pulse is short-lived and doesn't tend to happen to a significant degree again during the ride without a really MAJOR stimulus. Personally, this is a trait that to me is a big negative in selecting a horse, as much as any conformational flaw. That said, I also understand that there are no perfect horses, and that we each deal with the flaws of our own horses as we try to best manage them. Heidi =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
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