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RE: [RC] loin rubbing with panel saddles - terry banister

Hi Terry,
Thank you for your reply on Dec. 9th, regarding my American Flex saddles. I have since figured out the problem [loin rubbing] and your email verified the same thing. Looseness and friction was causing the problem on the short backed horse and a sway back, combined with looseness of the saddle was the culprit with the jumper. Cathy, at Hill View Farms , worked with us diligently to help fix the problem. I hope you will pass on the following information to people you help in regards to American Flex saddles. Cathy sent us center shims which we inserted into the pad,laying the largest shims in first and building up with medium sized over that. There is a third one which was not required in this case. We positioned them to fill in the hollow to accommodate his sway [back] and lift the saddle out of the pocket. That leveled the saddle. The rubbing is ever so slight and it's not the loins anymore. It's where the back seam of this dressage pad lays. Cathy sells a new pad called the Tacky-Tack pad, made of a material similar to the stuff you cut and lay under a chair cushion to keep it from sliding. It's thicker though. You put it on first and then you put on the saddle which has the marino wool easy pad which fits the AF saddle panels. In our case we use a dressage pad as well. Cathy says your padding shouldn't exceed 1/2 inch when using the tacky tack pad. All the loin rubbing completely disappeared because the saddle no longer shifted around and let me also say the saddles feel so much more secure and have less shifting with each stride. It worked so much better than a breast collar ever would. Cathy knows her products and her catalog and her knowledge of AF saddles is unbelievable. These new tacky tack pads are awesome. I put it under my bareback pad and had no slipping which meant a much more secure ride and also it was so nice and cushy. The short backed gaited horse just uses the tacky tack pad and it stopped the loin rubbing on him. Cathy also sells forward and rear shims for leveling pockets in other areas.
My problems were not looking good and now we finally solved them. Thank you so much for helping me with a reply. You were right on! I hope the above info will help others get the most enjoyment fro these unique saddles. Feel free to email anytime with questions .
SUE
On Tuesday, December 9, 2003, at 10:45 AM, terry banister wrote:

Hi,
I think I just sent you a reply that was meant for someone else who was interested in trying an AF saddle.
As to your problem with the AF saddles, I find myself wondering which saddle is working on which horse. Are the two on the short-backed horses the same model? Because I think there are differences in each model as to what the horse feels. Have you tried the saddle that is working for the one horse onto the short-backed horses having loin-rub problem?
Also, if rubbing hair is the problem on the two horses, that indicates looseness and friction, as apposed to tenderness to palpation, which would indicate a pressure problem.
Terry


From: Roger Karlsson <karlsson1@xxxxxxx>
To: terrybanister@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: saddle fitter
Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 13:06:08 -0800

Hi Terry,

I'm looking for a saddle fitter who services the North County, San Diego area. I got your email address from Hill View Farms. I currently have 2 American Flex endurance stitchdown saddles and my friend just bought an American flex saddle for jumping. Two of the saddles are rubbing out our horses hair in the loin area and I even had Hill View send one back to Germany. Nothing wrong with the saddles. Doesn't matter what we do. We tried breast collars and the saddles just rub out the hair further up. I have contacted Hill View to see what they can do but we can't keep the saddles unless this is fixable. I need to have someone actually come out and look at the problem. My guess is that they don't fit short backed horses since that seems to be the link between the two horses that this is happening to. Do you service Vista, CA? Do you know about American-Flex and non paneled saddles ,as well? Would you email me and let me know? I would so appreciate any help!

Thank you so much,

Sue Karlsson


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