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RE: [RC] rules and protecting the horse - Bob MorrisSteph & all other interested parties: You rightly question the statement "'no rule can save horses'". In the context of the simple basics of life this is an immutable factor. In any given herd of 1000 horses of age ranges from 5 to 25 years of age, there can be expected "X" number of deaths. It will vary from year to year but the death factor is continually present, be it from age, accident or disease, it is there. NO RULE MADE CAN MITIGATE THIS. Now, taking things out of that real life context and exploring the addition of a risk factor called competition. Yes, all lice for an equine is competition, eating , reproducing, just plain living entails some competition. But here we are speaking of an unnatural competition. Un natural not for the speed or duration but the combination of the two. This is not found, to the extremes practiced in endurance, in nature. So, and added stress on life factor is placed on top of that of just living. On that basis one should be capable of taking that basic "X"/:1000 factor and adding "Y" the expected factor associated with the additional risk of competition. I am aware, we would like to see the "Y" factor equal to zero but that is not a realistic concept. Thus, at some point we must become realistic and accept some loss of entrants in endurance competition if for no other reason than natural attrition. Comments? Bob Bob Morris Morris Endurance Enterprises Boise, ID -----Original Message----- From: ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Steph Teeter Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 9:37 AM To: ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [RC] rules and protecting the horse I'm not sure I totally understand the 'no rule can save horses' mentality. If that is the case, what about the rules AERC already has? Are they unnecessary? I don't think any of you are recommending that we actually have NO rules, and depend entirely on the wisdom of the each rider to protect the equines in this sport... So maybe the question should not be 'do we need more rules' to protect the equines? But 'which rules are the most appropriate and effective' in protecting the equines. Are the current rules just right? I believe the message of the Horse Welfare committee at the midyear meeting's report was that 'we need a little more' and they came up with proposals for rules changes to address educating novice riders regarding the effects of speed during a competition, and narrowing the window for pulse recovery after the finish. The current rules did not happen when the sport was invented. They have evolved with the sport. It would be pretty foolish to put a freeze on rules changes because 'rules won't save horses'. The world is smaller, International competition is more prevalent and more public, we've added shorter distances, and our own mistakes are more public. Let's be smart and keep trying to make this sport safer for the horses. I agree with Truman on this - I hate the seatbelt rules that some states have, but it has probably saved at least one life. The drunken driving rules don't catch every drunkard and people still die because of drunk drivers, but it has probably saved at least one life. Let's keep an open mind, and examine the merits of new proposals, compare them to our existing rules, keep on thinking... Steph -----Original Message----- From: ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Truman Prevatt Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 8:35 AM To: Merryben@xxxxxxx Cc: ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [RC] [RC] Just Guessing There is no law that will stop carnage on our highways - does that mean we should not try? There is no law that will keep one person from killing another from time to time - does that mean we should not try? There is no law that will eliminate domestic violence - does that mean we should not try? Not to try would result in anarchy. Regards, Truman Merryben@xxxxxxx wrote: Yep, Kat, when you are right, you are right. There is no rule that will stop horse deaths.....mb =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- =-=-=-=-= Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- =-=-=-=-= =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- =-=-=-=-= Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. 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