RE: [RC] new riders/mentors - David LeBlancKristen A. Fisher said: "I also think if you can't do 25 miles in 4.5 hours you probably should not be out there." Well, I just don't know what to think then. Another thread said 4 hours should be the minimum on your first 4 LDs! Go slow, go slow, go slow, nothing wrong with going slow! Then, this comment - if you can't make it in 4.5 hours, stay home. This is because there's a whole bunch of us, and we don't tend to agree on everything (some days anything...). Here's where that comes from - on an average ride, 4.5 hours _is_ really slow. With a 45 minute hold, that's completing with only 45 minutes to spare. We're also looking at it from the perspective of 50's - on a 50, you're probably going to spend 40% of your time on the first 25, and 60% on the second 25. Some people manage to do it more evenly. So if you spent 4.5 hours on the first 25, you're going to run overtime running that same pace on a 50. I'd agree with that - a ride time of 4.5 hours is bordering on too slow, and either the rider hasn't learned how to pace and was being too conservative, or the horse really isn't in shape to go 25 miles. Neither me or my horse had been on the hilly, rocky terrain found in Bandera before. Sometimes I'm just happy to beat the ride - to heck with the other riders. One of my absolute toughest rides, I came in last. Being on unfamiliar ground is a good reason to go slow. [...] got all As on our vet card, and we got a completion. I RODE MY OWN RIDE. I just would have preferred to "ride my own ride" with an extra 30 minutes to complete. Too long vet checks are one of the least of the evils you can encounter. I did a 50 this year with just over an hour hold for the whole ride, and I was not a happy camper. If you came in with 30 minutes to spare, that's plenty. I've done it with 10 minutes. IMHO, it's a little long for a 25, but 45 minutes is common. Learning to set your pace depending on terrain, weather, and holds is all part of the learning experience. I personally welcome hour holds - I know I'll have time to take care of myself, and the horse will be well fed, watered and rested. If I am not the kind of newbie you want out there, who is??? You sound like a fairly good newbie to me - just learn to pace yourself a little better - start shooting for 4 hour ride times. Pacing means not going too fast or too slow. BTW, it's a fairly rare ride that has mile markers. I've seen a few, and a few others where the distances are marked on the map. Yet another reason to pick up the pace is that the distance might not be accurate. You could quite legitimately see a 25 that's actually 27. Some rides are short, others long. You might like one of those speed and distance gizmos Catfish was talking about. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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