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[RC] - Stagg_NewmanAngie wrote: Hey Stagg...how long do you think that Gold Rush was the year you won it with Drubin? What was your win time there compared to your time at say...OD? Believe the was the year Drubin and his son Bahrain with Ellen Tully tied for first at Gold Rush ('95 maybe) but the "old man" got BC. Winning time was about 15 hours! And at elast one of the loops had to have been 5 miles longer that what ride management claimed. And deep mud! You should have heard Ellen whine (sorry Ellen). Next year ride management redid trails and we finished second in about 12 hours. Was good ride and wish they would put ride on again! Similarly Hallelulah last year in the spring was long. The first half or so of the yellow and green loops were the same. One loop was suppose to be just a couple miles further than than the other and yet took twice as long to ride. And terrain was strait forward. Ride management said they had mesaured (must have been with ATV). The problem is the odometers on many vehicles are wrong, particularly if larger tires have been installed. BTW when I won the OD on Super in 2001 they had changed about 6 miles of trail or so between 70 and 80 miles (made that stretch much nicer as you do less hard gravel roads) from what I did when Super won in 1999. (One reason his time was faster). I commented to John Crandall that I thought they probably took out about a mile of trail. He said yes, the OD was probably only about 102 or 103 now, that it had been creeping up over they years to close to 105! This year the trail will change again. Let's hope its close to 100. Also ride managers should never just use milage derived from calculations on a topo map. Susan Brannon did that at the ROC in '91. Was suppose to be 3-day 60,60,60 but each 60 was probably 75. Had to shorten the trails after 1st day. Ride managers must calibrate the measuring procedure. Am skeptical of most GSP systems for mountainous twisty trails. So really agree with you the reasonably accurate measurements are a real virtue. +---------------------------------------------------------+ This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. +---------------------------------------------------------+ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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