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I'm packing up the Turkey Trot ride office, and found last years timer 
sheets.
Combining the 2 days and 25's & 50's I had 74 starters.

This IS a November ride, so heat is not an issue.
EVERY HORSE EXCEPT 1 met criteria in 5 minutes or less.

That one was a non-Arabian ridden in the 25 by a heavyweight rider, (who 
left before awards & I still have their rider card, too). It took 18 minutes 
to reach criteria at the vet check, according to the timer. It had a CRI of 
12/12 and got all A's except gait & impulsion.
It took 13 minutes to reach criteria at the finish, it's 15 minute CRI was 
15/13.
Ride time of 2:44 + 45 minute hold.
Completion exam all A's except back/withers & gait.

One 50 mile horse was treated at some time after completion, I'm not sure 
whether it got fluids or medication. Was doing well again in a short time.
It took 5 minutes to reach criteria at VC 1
1 minute at VC 2.
I'm not sure about the finish but I don't recall there being any concerns at 
that time.

I doubt I'm the only ride manager that has old time sheets from ordinary 
every day rides.
Nancy Mitts


> From: terre <tobytrot@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [RC]   pr recovery proposal
> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 11:15:43 -0800
>
> John Teeter said:
>
> "It would be easy to apply the intime.to.pulsetime evaluation to PanAm, as 
> the data is available for all
> horses, to see what effect applying the proposed new pulse criteria zones 
> might have been. I don't recall seeing any >15min pulse times, but there 
> may have been a few.
>
> More directly, testing the proposed change against existing data (from 
> swanton, from PanAm, from biltmore and any other rides for which the 
> intime.to.pulsetime data is available) should be done as part of the 
> process of reviewing the suitability of the change. It would be interesting 
> to see if it would have effected anything."
>
> 	and of, course I think he is right--where we have data available from past 
> rides we should take a look at it.  However, we need to consider it with a 
> bit of caution; since the '15 minute' clause did not apply then, you cannot 
> guarantee that riders behaved the way they would have had it been in 
> effect.  What I mean is, I know that at the PAC (and some other FEI rides) 
> later in the ride people will often feed their horses, etc, before going to 
> P/R.  This is because FEI makes you go straight from P/R to vet, and if the 
> rider has any concerns re gut sounds, they may want to do some TLC before 
> presenting.  Saddles are always pulled before PR, and that will influence 
> the number too.
> 	I still think we will see very, very few horses that take longer than 15", 
> even given these conditions.
>
> terre

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