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RE: [RC] another proposal - Bob Morris

Jim:

This is why such proposals need full disclosure as to the
details. When such are left out, while the proposal may
sound almost perfect, the field application trips very
badly.

Bob

Bob Morris
Morris Endurance Enterprises
Boise, ID

-----Original Message-----
From: ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Jim
Holland
Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 12:49 PM
To: Bob Morris
Cc: steph@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; oddfarm; ridecamp; Bobbie Lieberman
Subject: Re: [RC] another proposal


Hmmmm...not the way I understood it. This DOES need
clarification. I
understood "placing" to mean Top Ten and "completion" in
this case to
mean the same thing as finishing normally, just not in the
Top Ten.

There is a HUGE difference. Under your interpretation, ALL
riders would
have to recover within 15 minutes or you get nothing but the
"pleasure"
of a trail ride. IMHO, that's the same as reducing the time
for recovery
from 30 minutes to 15 minutes....as Lisa suggested. If that
IS the case,
why bother with all this? Just drop the recovery to 15
minutes at all
checks and the finish and forget about a "completion only".
I think this
interpretation is too drastic a change all at once and would
impact too
many riders who are NOT racing.

Bobbie, could you please clarify EXACTLY the meaning here?

As to Weight Divisions, it is my understanding "word of
mouth" and from
some private emails, that Matthew did not think it was
appropriate to
include weight divisions, at least initially, but it was not
in the
written proposal.

This is something the Vet Committee/Horse Welfare Committee
and the BOD
could discuss. Personally, I would prefer to omit Weight
Divisions
initially just to keep it simple....but I would accept
either choice.

Jim, Sun of Dimanche+, and Mahada Magic


Bob Morris wrote:

Jim:

Please read the proposal once more. It states ....?
1)Those
who are permitted to continue for placing, and
? 2) Those who are permitted to continue for completion.

At every vet check, in order to continue to compete for a
placing, your horse must recover to pulse parameters
within
15 minutes. If your horse recovers after 15 minutes but
before 30 minutes you may continue for completion only. If
it takes longer than 30 minutes for your horse to recover,
your horse will be eliminated from the competition
entirely.
At the finish, your horse must recover within 15 minutes
in
order to get a placing. Between 15 and 30 minutes, your
horse is eligible for completion only and longer than 30
minutes and your horse will be eliminated from the
competition

If you exceed the 15 minutes then you get completion only.
COMPLETION ONLY!! No points, mileage only. This excludes
you
from any points awards for that ride. No weight division
points. COMPLETION ONLY!!!

You state <<<Matthew's proposal does not apply to weight
divisions>>> Please indicate where this is stated.

Bob

Bob Morris
Morris Endurance Enterprises
Boise, ID



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