Re: [RC] What's in a name? - Barbara McCraryNo one can make you feel like a second class citizen without your permission. If you refuse to feel like a second class citizen, no matter what anyone else says, then you are NOT a second class citizen. Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Morris" <bobmorris@xxxxxxxx> To: "David LeBlanc" <dleblanc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "'Heidi Smith'" <heidi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Cc: <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 11:32 AM Subject: RE: [RC] What's in a name? I am so sorry it discussion has reached this point <<<<It makes a bunch of people feel like they're second-class citizens in our organization,>>>> In life, you feel exactly what you are. A nomenclature does not make the person. Bob Bob Morris Morris Endurance Enterprises Boise, ID -----Original Message----- From: ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of David LeBlanc Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 12:16 PM To: 'Heidi Smith' Cc: ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: [RC] What's in a name?Heidi Smith said:One has to draw the line at some sort of performancelevel.That level will be easy for some, difficult for others,andunobtainable to some.I'm saying we're drawing the line in a really silly place. When you go around drawing lines, it has other effects as you've so well pointed out in some of the discussions around various rules. We've got a line between the star-bellied Sneeches and the plain-bellied Sneeches, when the bottom line is that we're all a bunch of Sneeches. Either draw lines in good places for good reasons, or don't draw them. Not drawing lines can often have benefits.Heck, maybe if they lowered the baskets a whole bunch and didn't allow other playerswithin10 feet of me, I could play in the NBA, too!ROTFL! That's certainly a funny image.What is wrong with that?It makes a bunch of people feel like they're second-class citizens in our organization, and I think that's a bad thing. It would be one thing if we drew the line(s) in places that really meant something. For example, if we said that riders with > 5000 miles were "Senior" (or some term signifying seniority and accomplishment) Endurance Riders, then I'd support that. Changing labels based on one ride isn't worth the side effects. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- =-=-=-=-= Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- =-=-=-=-= =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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