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Re: [RC] Ft Valley - john thunder

Okay, one last time. It's really interesting that when I first questioned the safety of the end of the Ft. Valley ride Tom was more interested in questioning the distance involved then addressing the problem. When I mentioned the Renegade accident Helen is more concerned with the number of horses involved then addressing the problem and how to prevent future disasters and now we are told it's always been done that way. The last 20 years etc, well it wasn't always done that way and if it was and it was wrong who cares if thats the 'way we've always done it'?? The crap about a vet check within the last 6 miles has absolutely NOTHING to do with the cavalry charge at the end. And yes, I can drive my car at 70 or 80 miles an hour if I want to but I can't drive into oncoming traffic or thru a school playground because "I feel like it"! Management and riders have a responsibility to their horses first, the public second,(or maybe even first), and then too themselves. If you can't guarantee the safety to all in what you do, you better change the way you do it! For a sport thats facing so many problems (disappearing trails, limits on use of national forests, public relation disasters (dead horses, mangled riders, etc.), encroaching development) whatever, it seems really sad that we (or you if you prefer) don't do those little things to help the sport when they are so easy to do!!


From: renegade@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: broxboy@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Ft Valley
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 12:18:17 +0000

John Thunder,
Since you are not willing to tell everyone who you are and in what
capacity you were at the Ft Valley ride, then perhaps you have
something to hide.
The Old D requires a vet check with in the last  6 miles of a ride.
That is why the vet check is at Hickory Ln and the finish is at the
other end of the road.  This has been done this way for over 20
years.  Ride management cannot tell a rider how to ride a ride.  If a
person chooses to race it is their option, not ride managements.
As for the Doncaster ride - there were only 3 horses involved in that
horse accident, not the 4 you stated on ride camp.  I really wonder
if your facts are correct for other things.
Helen
John and Helen Stacy
Renegade Retreat
renegade@xxxxxxxxx

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