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Re: [RC] [RC] [RC] Hawk will be back and Ft. Valley and Automatic Sanctions - john thunder

Tom,
That you feel no shame for thinking this was a good thing for our sport is in itself a real shame, but thats not the issue, and neither is the distance. The 2nd rider was galloping from the out timer and if it's the most exciting race you've ever seen you really need to get out more often. All I'm saying is the potential for a lot of damage is being built into that particular ride and I pray to God it never happens but why push the envelope when it could be prevented?


From: "goearth" <goearth@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Ridecamp" <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [RC] [RC] Hawk will be back and Ft. Valley and Automatic Sanctions
Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 09:59:11 -0400

Yes, you are correct, it was not 300 yds, it was 504' according to my wheel.
It was 1.1 mile from the out timer at Hickory Lane to the finish according
to my speedometer. Jeannie had a one minute lead out and came over the hill
at a slow canter and she heard thundering hooves and Danielle being very
vocal. So when Danielle came upon Jeannie 504' from the finish i witnessed
the most intense and exciting horse race i have ever seen. I feel no shame.
tom sites
-----Original Message-----
From: john thunder <broxboy@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: goearth@xxxxxxxxxxx <goearth@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Monday, October 27, 2003 4:32 PM
Subject: Re: [RC] Hawk will be back and Ft. Valley and Automatic Sanctions


>If you're referring to my comments about the finish of saturdays ft.
valley,
>I was definately there. That was no sprint and the fact that you have two
>'great' riders ( or 50) is no excuse for endangering yourself, your horse,
>others and their horses, and the public at large. For what? A t-shirt and a
>stinkin bucket! Just for the record, the ride management announced legs of
>20 miles, 19 miles, 9 miles, and 1& 1/2 miles for a TOTAL OF 49.5. It may
>not have been a full 1 1/2 but it wasn't 300 yards either. If you've been
>riding as long as you say, you should be ashamed of yourself
>
>
>>From: "goearth" <goearth@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>To: "Ridecamp" <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Subject: Re: [RC] Hawk will be back and Ft. Valley and Automatic
>>Sanctions
>>Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 04:00:26 -0400
>>
>>Hello Mary, I'm sure he and you both will be back. That dreadful 3rd
loop
>>is up Habron Gap and along the ridgeline where I first moved to the Valley
>>and trained for the GAHR. Its harder and steeper to me than Indian Grave
>>Ridge which is longer but not as steep. Horses that don't train on these
>>rocks would be greatly advised to wear pads as there are plenty of rock.
>>As for the 'Sprint' on the 1st day. I doubt very seriously if the person
>>who questioned the finish was there and saw it. He said/she said by those
>>that don't witness a situation can alter the facts and other people
>>opinions of those facts. The 'Sprint' was only 300 yards or so because of
>>the Vet Check at Hickory Lane. (A little history here... back in the
80's
>>there was an 8 mile sprint between Linda Lawrence and me to the very same
>>finish on the OD 50. Because there was no Vet Check at Hickory Lane it
>>created this set-up. So the Vet Check worked and separated those that
felt
>>compelled to race. Linda won and I got BC and because I didn't have a
>>trailer there I rode BayMar home, which was another 10 miles) When you
>>have a past World Champion and Jeannie Waldron who both want to win there
>>may always be sprints. We can sit back in our rocking chairs in our
>>knitting sessions and discuss this til the cows come in but its not gonna
>>change people and their approach. Personally, i think my racing days are
>>over and have been since i was hung from Jug Tree at the PAC in 95, but i
>>don't begrudge anyone else who finds this competitive desire within
>>themselves. In reference to automatic sanctions... AERC could not have
>>done any more to make me feel worse or punish me than I did myself, and if
>>he would have died, I would not have been back in any form. (An
analogy...
>>7 horses die and people get their panties wadded up and move to Salem. 1
>>is too many, 7 is bad but its not the end of the world according to
Chicken
>>Little. Something good is going to happen here believe me because I
>>believe in the people on the Committee to find answers. What gets me is
>>the 11,000 people that die directly from Global Warming a year and the WHO
>>expects the # to climb to 21,000 in 3. Who speaks for these people?
>>Because they are from developing countries mostly, not many. The
droughts,
>>floods and fires are not Normal and you can believe me or not). I don't
>>get into spitting or licking contests online, so anyone that would like to
>>discuss these viewpoints off-line I would be happy to respond. tom sites
>>goearthatshentel.net
>
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