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Re: [RC] RE: [RC] molasses - was tying up question (long) - David LeBlanc - csimmons88

Comment on 'hay'.
I would add to this; generally speaking horses on pasture or only getting
grass hay will not get high if feed a 1-2 # supplement of grain .  Horses on
alfalfa will be higher than if fed grass hay and some are sensitive to it &
may be significantly 'spacier' than if just fed grass hay & grain.

My mare is not only sensitive to alfalfa but is also more prone to tying up.
If you're feeding alfalfa & grain some horses will have wings...and will
seldom be on the ground or emotionally present.  California feeds alot of
Alfmo (alfalfa & molasses) and I'd compare it to eating candy bars...


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "A. Perez" <walkergirl@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 7:39 AM
Subject: Re: [RC] RE: [RC] molasses - was tying up question (long) - David
LeBlanc


"So just curious - what do you recommend for the horse that
zings off the walls while levitating down the trail?"

My TWH gets wacky if he gets too much grain.  When I first got
him he was like a hyperactive child: would NOT stand still for
mounting, to wait for a break in traffic to cross the road, for
anything.  The gal I bought him from had been giving him 'just a
litle grain - only 3 pounds a day' - so I immediately backed off
on the feed.  As the grain consumption lessened, the
hyperactivity diminished.  He still has his moments (he can do
the most amazing canter-in-place!), but is much better.  I've
said it before and I'll say it again: horses do NOT NEED grain:
grain is a convenience for humans who don't want to or can't
store all the hay needed to feed horses the way they are
designed to eat, which is constantly.  If a horse has good
quality hay in front of him ALL the time, he'll be fine.  A
handfull of grain to hide supplements in is all that is needed
(if supplements are required).  My guy only gets grain as needed
to keep his weight up in the winter, and that is only because
his boarding situation precludes him getting hay 24/7 (unless I
want to provide hay for the entire herd of 20 horses).

  The other thing I recommend for levitators, wall-climbers and
such is as much turn out, in a much space, as possible.  I'm
always amazed when people complain about their horses being hot,
and then tell you they get 5 lbs of grain a day and are stalled
12 hours or more a day.  As my husband says,  "Paging Dr. Duh!
Paging Dr. Duh!..."

  If the whackiness is situational (only at rides, for example),
it is just a matter of constant exposure to the situation.
Eventually the novelty will wear off and they'll settle down.
Put your horse in those situations as often as possible: if it's
crowds, go to horse shows or gymkanahs, or to group pleasure
rides even if you don't participate.  All this is assuming the
horse has good basic training, of course.  If not, that's where
to begin.


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