Re: [RC] e'lytes and osmolality factors Pt 1 - Susan Garlinghouse, DVMSusan - maybe you could address the osmolality factor - the concentration of salts in the stomach and gut, vs concentration of salts in >the blood stream. That sounds good to me. :-)) Okay, the background concept regarding osmolality (very similar to osmolarity, for those painfully remembering their inorganic chemistry) is that it's a measurement of how concentrated a solution is. As it relates to this discussion, how salty is the liquid slopping around in a horse's stomach and how does that affect it's absorption into the bloodstream (where it's used for metabolic chores, or if in excess, gets filtered out by the kidneys and excreted in the urine). The important concept here is that if the contents of the stomach are 1) high fat, 2) high fiber, 3) high protein or 4) high osmolarity...then it'll either leave the stomach fairly slowly (or several hours), or sit there until the body has done something to make it more conducive to leaving and moving on into the small intestine. When you're talking specifically about elytes, how concentrated the solution is depends on: 1) How large the dose was (keeping in mind that formulations differ widely); 2) How much water was ingested concurrently or within the recent past to dilute the salt; 3) Any feed in the stomach with the capacity to affect the overall concentration of the stomach contents (which is a whole 'nother discussion, as the effects of feed vary widely) 4) To some extent, the chemical composition of the elytes---are they administered in a powdered form (ie an ounce of EnduraMax), or are the elytes those inherently contained with a flake of hay that will require additional processing to make available? So the basic physiology is that if the concentration of salt is higher in the stomach than it is in the bloodstream, the normal body response is to dilute the stomach contents before it'll release it into the small intestine. Fluids originating from the bloodstream are secreted into the lumen of the stomach until the salt is adequately diluted, after which it all goes on down the road and gets absorbed into the bloodstream. So here are just some of the issues to consider---while the salt is sitting in the stomach getting diluted by body fluids, it can be irritating the lining of the stomach, potentially contributing to formation or maintenance of gastric ulcers. Conclusion, we don't want (to use Heidi's term) "a big wad" of salt sitting in the stomach delaying emptying time---we want the stuff to ideally arrive already diluted as much as possible, and not in overly large doses, so that it will sail right on through towards absorption in the small intestine. Thus, my recommendation not to dose elytes in "big wads". My preference for a dose is an ounce or two per hour, *depending on conditions and intensity of exercise*, preferably while/after the horse is having a drink. Keep in mind that that ounce or two is also well-cut in most cases with other substances, such as sugar of some sort, applesauce, Maalox, Tums, whatever. IMO, a far cry short of a big wad. Another issue to consider is pH within the stomach, which also affects gastric emptying. If stomach contents are too alkaline (and offhand, no, I don't know the optimum pH), then gastric emptying is slowed until gastric secretions bring pH down. A lot of riders add buffering agents like Maalox or Tums to their mix against potential ulcer problems. Something to consider is whether the negatives of buffers outweigh the benefits. Would it be better to not add buffers at all and get those elytes shipped on through and into the small intestine as quickly as possible, minimizing their irritating effects on existing ulcers? Frankly, I have some doubts that a few cc's of Maalox make a doggone bit of difference in soothing an ulcer. In any case, we don't know what the optimum solution here is, in part because we don't really know why endurance horses are developing gastric ulcers in the first place. In the meantime, my recommendations based on all these factors remain that I suggest dosing appropriate to the conditions and in small and frequent intervals to facilitate gastric emptying and rapid absorptions without excessive negative effects on the gastric environment. Could impaired gastric emptying have been a significant factor in Darolyn's horse dying? If the stomach ruptured, then it damn sure was a factor somehow and somewhere. Is an electrolyting protocol alone sufficient to totally impair outflow? I sincerely doubt it, but that's just my opinion. Was it a *contributing* factor? Maybe. No way to even comment without knowing exactly what the protocol was, and probably not even then. Okay, back to our regularly scheduled program---so now the salts are adequately diluted according to the body's requirements and have moved into the small intestine for absorption. Assuming glucose is available concurrently, then sodium, chloride, glucose and water all get pulled from the gut into the bloodstream through transport cells. The e'lytes are circulating through the bloodstream to be used in whatever chores those elytes are slated for. Via kidneys, baroreceptors, adrenals, etc the body controls how concentrated the blood is within a fairly narrow range----above or below that, and you potentially have problems, sometimes life-threatening problems. So let's say that a dose of electrolytes has just moved from the gut into the bloodstream. More than is currently needed for neurologic functions of muscle contractions and so on. The are two other functions to be considered in distance horses---1) cooling the body via sweat production, and 2) maintaining adequate water intake via thirst responses. Regarding sweat production, evaporation of water is what cools the body, but salt is how the water is actually transported to the body surface. Salt is actively transported externally, the water follows because that's what water does, <g> and voila, sweat and cooling. If there isn't enough salt in the circulation for transport, than how hydrated the horse is is irrelevant---the horse is simply not going to sweat, and thus core body temperatures may rise to lethal levels. This is where the vast majority of elytes go during an endurance ride---how much depending on how hard the horse has to sweat to try to cool himself adequately. Truman has pointed out on many occasions that at high humidities, horse will sweat buckets all day, but often can't come close to evaporating enough sweat to remove heat. They just keep sweating without deriving any benefit from it. Thus a horse in humid conditions working even at moderate to slow speeds may easily have elyte requirements that FAR exceed a horse in dry conditions, even one working at much faster speeds. If those requirements aren't met, then that horse is at far greater metabolic risk of a crash. Lots more to talk about, but I promised myself a nice ride this afternoon, so I'll post more tomorrow. Susan G, DVM =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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