Re: [RC] ADR & horse deaths - Joe LongOn Sat, 20 Sep 2003 15:18:31 -0400, "Wendy Mancini" <wendym@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: My below observations are only based on 2 horse deaths that I know of that were colic related. 1. In both cases the riders recognized ADR (ain't doing right). 2. Both had C or D gut sounds on entering a vet check but "seemed" to improve before leaving. 3. Both were treated at ride site for many hours before being shipped to a hospital. These observations leave us with several things to think about. 1. If the horse ADR and has C or D gut sounds, vets correct me if I'm wrong, I would think the gut may be compromised circulatory wise and returning to trail, even if slightly improved at rest, would only recompromise the gut. Hard call, maybe we need to reevaluate our thinking on pulling for poor gut sounds. I don't think we should be too quick to conclude this, and start pulling horses for reduced gut sounds. I've had horses with reduced gut sounds at vet checks many times, and I've never considered that *in and of itself* to indicate a problem. I long-duration exercise, does not the body regulate the blood flow to where it's needed most? The brain always has top priority, of course, but if the muscles need more does not the body divert some from the GI tract? And, are not horses on rides taking in less bulk food than usual? This is one reason why I haven't considered REDUCED gut sounds to be anything to be concerned about, as long as the other parameters are OK. Now, ABSENCE of gut sounds is certainly a red flag and I would not continue on a horse that had NO gut sounds ... but merely diminished? In the presence of other indications of ADR, diminished gut sounds is another factor indicating pulling, but otherwise I'd want more evidence on this before making it a pull trigger. -- Joe Long jlong@xxxxxxxx http://www.rnbw.com =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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