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Re: [RC] Horse Fatalities, Part Two - MagnumsmomJohn wrote Your reference to the Jenkins decision proves my point: people should have the guts to protest abuse when they see it in the here and now with specific factual testimony and not whine about it with hearsay generalities on ridecamp years later if they actually want to save horses. To which Heidi responded: AMEN! (...and then went off on a tangent about pulling horses instead of along the thread of what I brought up in the first place) First, John, you named Jenkins here, not I. After much thought, I regretfully have to respond one last time. As I have already stated (and in regards to Jenkins) the matter WAS reported in depth and with detail *in a timely manner* by persons who were there and saw some things they thought were serious enough to report. So I do not know why you keep going back to your "it has to first be reported" defense. My original question on the horse fatality thread and where the Horse Welfare Committe could start had to do with whether or not we should sanction riders for horse abuse / death in some cases (such as Jenkins), and if so, specifically how? What is the Horse Welfare Committe coming up with in this arena? *I* thought this was a fairly obvious place to start, given that more than one of these questionable events has occured in our recent past. Perhaps, if it is not "for Ridecamp ears", you could answer my private question privately which had to do specifically with what was missing from the reports that did not allow a sanction in the case you mentioned here? (Again, it was *not* that the reporting wasn't done.) What would need to be reported in the future to sanction a rider for horse abuse? (since apparently the reports I mentioned *privately* were not enough?) Maryben, you know I love you dearly. Would it really be too hard to simply ban a rider like this from membership and rides, irregardless? Might make a point to other AERC members as well. Again, respectfully, Kathy Myers in Santa Fe, NM =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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