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yes..go to the yahoo groups and there is an EPM list..much
like the NATRC list on yahoo groups.

Again I'm praying that your vet was a bit hasty in his
diagnosis. Also it is interesting to note my mare was never
lame, she just dragged her back hooves and as the EPM got
worse the more she dragged them.

Regards,
Penny
--- Laurie Durgin <ladurgin@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> thanks, do I just get into yahoo and type EPM? Laurie
>
>
> > From: sharp penny <penelope_75647@xxxxxxxxx>
> > To: Laurie Durgin <ladurgin@xxxxxxx>
> > CC: ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: [RC]   Rascal's EPM diagnosed today
> > Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 05:17:03 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> >   Geez...I'm sorry to hear this. Having had my best
> mare go
> > through this I know the roller coaster ride of emotions
> you
> > are and will be going through IF it is EPM.
> >   Did your vet mention that the only way to be sure he
> has
> > EPM is the spinal tap and even that is not %100. If the
> > test comes back positive and he shows the clasic
> symptoms
> > then there is a good chance he has EPM. Another symptom
> is
> > tilting the head; my mare did this ocassionally and I
> > thought it was just a funny quirk of hers. You also may
> > want to have a vet/chiro look at him...some times what
> > looks like EPM is just a  pinched nerve due to alignment
> > issues. That was where I took my mare first to rule out
> any
> > chiro issues. My vet/chiro examined my mare and said he
> was
> > 90% sure she had EPM. Then when her spinal tap agreed we
> > put her on the Marquiez (sp?) which was $800 for the 28
> day
> > treatment. I can't imagine what treatment you vet is
> > talking about that is $1400. At the time the Marquiez
> was
> > considered the expensive treatment but this was 3 years
> ago
> > and things may have changed since then. Also sometimes
> you
> > have do the Marquiez treatment again depending on how
> far
> > the EPM has progressed so that would run you $1600 but
> I'm
> > told these cases are few. Once he is clear of the EPM
> with
> > the right diet you will be able to do everything you can
> do
> > with him before the EPM. The only time this isn't true
> is
> > if there is permanate damage from the EPM.
> >   So just to let you know it isn't a death sentence
> like it
> > was years ago. There are alot of EPM recovered horses
> > competeing out there. There is also an EPM group on
> yahoo.
> > Wishing you the best,
> > Penny
> > --- Laurie Durgin <ladurgin@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >    I wrote the storey and accidently deleted it.
> > > Vet came today to draw coggins. Since hurting my hand
> ,
> > > my son had been
> > > caring for horses, and with all the storms I had only
> > > been down to barn
> > > once.Was trying to  protect my hand , knew I'd start
> > > working if I went down.
> > >    After we turned Rascal and Honey out, the other
> horse
> > > came up to "see the
> > > company", and we watched Rascal trot down the
> slope.He
> > > stumbled sort of, I
> > > was only half paying attention, but my vet was
> watching
> > > and said,"watch him
> > > and see if he stumbles like that again;if he does
> call
> > > me"I said I thought
> > > he'd just tripped  a bit.He said maybe. Then Rascal
> came
> > > back, and the vet
> > > said"wonder if we can get him to trot"I said "sure,
> he
> > > free lunges if I had
> > > the round pen still up." We'd just been talking about
> the
> > > voice commands he
> > > knew,I said "Rascal trot and flicked the lead rope at
> him
> > > while the two 2 yr
> > > olds and Champ and Honey crowded around.He trotted
> > > outsome and circled back,
> > > it looked like his whole hip and leg"missed or
> slipped".I
> > > cried "he's lame,
> > > that horse has never been lame, except when he got
> kicked
> > > as a yearling."The
> > > vet said 'let me turn him on a tight circle and took
> the
> > > lead rope and put
> > > it around his neck and led him,I was being  blocked
> by
> > > the colts who came up
> > > for rubs   so I didn't get to see it all> I'd felt
> him up
> > > and down his leg,
> > > no heat,tenderness or swelling after he'd trotted out
> and
> > > had said "is it in
> > > his hip?". He said," he's not lame, it's
> > > neurological.He's got EPM.I said,"
> > > are you sure, what about West Nile?" He said, "he's
> not
> > > sick, he's not
> > > hurting, he just doesn't know where his feet are."I
> said
> > > the D word(I t ry
> > > not to cuss) and started crying. But I bit it back.
> > > I asked about treatment and diagnosis. he said on a
> > > ?serum/blood  test 95%
> > > or so of horses would test positive. He said he's the
> > > right breed, the right
> > > age,typical symptoms.Ahe said something about the
> spinal
> > > tap, which I don't
> > > remember, but he was pretty sure.
> > > Treatment ,the convient expensive way, 28 days at
> > > 1400$Cheaper less convient
> > > way, 90 days at about 7-800$I asked about
> > > effectiveness.He said they both
> > > work,and I'll need a spinal tap at the end, 350$.
> > > I  have to go with the cheaper, I only do some
> > > sewing,occasional horse
> > > sitting, and church nursery work for 'horse money" as
> I
> > > am a stay at home,
> > > homeschooling mom.And with 4 emergency room visits
> and 2
> > > surgeries, we are
> > > up to our necks in dr. payments.Plus major vehicle
> > > repairs(like engine and
> > > trans. in my older pickup.this winter.
> > >    He said it's not as bad as the articles paint it,
> he's
> > > treated lots of
> > > horses with it and they almost all recover to do what
> > > ever thay want.He said
> > > they usually are falling down before he sees them. I
> told
> > > him he was fine 2
> > > tue. ago when I rode and had my hand crushed and
> stitches
> > > in. And I'd seen
> > > them all running and playing a couple days ago , and
> > > hadn't noticed
> > > anything.The "almost all" is the hard part. There
> goes
> > > our debut at the
> > > Oconee 30. Well Honey has needed more time, so maybe
> now
> > > I can get her  some
> > > real training in. And I could trailride Champ (18,
> > > daughter just brought him
> > > home to semi-retire here for a yr . or so as a trail
> > > horse till I got Honey
> > > going, then we'd decide his future when she detached
> some
> > > emotionally, 1st
> > > horse)And my 'surprise 2 yr old' could be taught to
> > > ground drive and to the
> > > mechanical parts or a saddle , maybe some
> despooking(cept
> > > he isn't spooky,
> > > guess that half arab part didn't get passed on.)So I
> will
> > > have some horses
> > > to play with. But all rides off till at least fall,
> maybe
> > > winter now, and I
> > > am not sure yet about ; if he seems to recover fully
> how
> > > long before I can
> > > ride him and how long it will take after being off
> ,3x
> > > times this year
> > > adding up to about 6 months  total.
> > >    He is getting Daraprin 25 mg.1 a day at 78.21$ for
> 79
> > > or them.And Ditrim
> > > 960 mg. 10  tablets every 12 hours for 90 days.I paid
> > > 102.$ for 500.(Well I
> > > paid  for it partly, i'd paid for the coggins and a
> > > rabies for 87$, then
> > > when I went to pick up the meds.I paid another 100$,
> what
> > > I had in my "horse
> > > account"
> > >     And Dang, I'd just sent in my AERC membership
> like 4
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