Re: [RC] Fat or Carbs - superpatThe best person to ask is Susan Garlinghouse. I can tell you that she will probably tell you that most horses do not need grain in any abundance, if at all. A good quality hay, some alfalfa and beet pulp. I think the trend, nutritionally speaking is in this direction. Most horses can use more fat in their diets. It is best added in the form of oil, (up to 1 1/2 cups twice a day for a 1500 lb horse). For my 900 pound horses, I give them 1 cup per day added to their morning beet pulp slurry (with about 1/2 - 1 cup rice bran for flavor and added fat) plus their supplements, MSM and depending on their work loads, a cup or two of Strategy or Complete Advantage. My horse who has tied up in the past gets 1 cup twice a day. The problem is that some horses don't like the oil floating on their mash and my tie-up girl would just pick at her mash and take hours to finally down it all. A friend turned me on to "Fat Pak" which is a powdered animal fat. It smells awful and I certainly would not find it appetizing, but it is another way to add fat. What is even better is a fairly new product made from Vegetable fat. It smells pretty good and my mare seems to really like it and eats her mash in one sitting till it is all gone. It is called "Energy Pak" and comes in 50 pound bags for I think $26. Also a lot cheaper than oil. Once all my oil is gone, I plan to start feeding this to all my horses. Our Grange Co-op is where I get it and they are now using the Energy Pak as the fat source in the feeds they put together at their elevator. Hope this helps. Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shellace A Williams" <enduranceracer@xxxxxxxx> To: <suendavid@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2003 2:59 PM Subject: [RC] Fat or Carbs Could you please give Ridecampers any updates on whether the high fat feeding is still what most people are using for endurance horses, or if there are any problems with the high fat diet that have come up in the past few years. Also what luck have people had w/carbo loading and/or supplementation during the ride? One more question - does the high fiber in beet pulp cause a problem for horses w/ulcers? Shelly ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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